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"This horrible experience was perfectly normal for state-of-the-art software. I kid you not."

"This horrible experience was perfectly normal for state-of-the-art software. I kid you not."

Posted May 12, 2025 20:58 UTC (Mon) by Wol (subscriber, #4433)
In reply to: Microsoft corruption by khim
Parent article: Celebrating 20 Years of the OASIS Open Document Format

Except it wasn't normal. Sinofsky was talking about Office 95/97. The WordPerfect format, at least, was "frozen" with 5.0 - maybe 1990? They only changed the format with 6.0 because it needed compatibility with Office 95/97.

How many other products only changed their file formats because "MS Compatibility" forced it on them?

Cheers,
Wol


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"This horrible experience was perfectly normal for state-of-the-art software. I kid you not."

Posted May 12, 2025 21:09 UTC (Mon) by khim (subscriber, #9252) [Link]

> Except it wasn't normal.

It certainly wasn't. Before enterprise embraced Office almost every version got its own format.

Office 95 was an exception that became the norm: it kept format compatible with Office 4.x to ensure success of Windows 95 – and sales people liked the idea of unchanging format of Office 95 so much that they caused a riot when Office 97 changed format, like was normal at the time.

Office 97 have changed format, but 2000 and 2003 haven't changed it. And if you would look for any product you'll see that Office 97/2000/2003 is listed as one format already.

> How many other products only changed their file formats because "MS Compatibility" forced it on them?

Who cares? The fact is: MS Office froze it's format not because of ODF silly games, but because their new, enterprise, customers wanted frozen format. That happened 10 years before ODF and OOXML saga.

And OOXML had zero input from anyone else, it was pure marketing, plain and simple XML is hot and we need XML format, let's create one.

That (Microsoft creates new office as “a standard de facto”, the rest of the world follows approach) wasn't any different from what happened before or after…


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