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flatpacks falling flat, packing bugs, snaps snapping resources, both suck

Posted Mar 19, 2025 9:58 UTC (Wed) by andrejp (guest, #47396)
In reply to: flatpacks falling flat, packing bugs, snaps snapping resources, both suck by andrejp
Parent article: Fedora discusses Flatpak priorities

And just to make this perfectly clear: I don't view *everything* by LP as bad. Some of it is actually pretty good. The bad tho is like the proverbial truck given in the example. And with no means of separating the truck from the bundled kitchen sink while at the same time making the truck a hard dependency of the living room, can you really blame me for wanting to remove the whole effin' truck? Or for not wanting that "someone" to park more trucks in other rooms?

I mean... "GRUB tries to do too much, and most of those things are a mistake, he said."
No, wait, that wasn't my comment. Hm.

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flatpacks falling flat, packing bugs, snaps snapping resources, both suck

Posted Mar 19, 2025 13:07 UTC (Wed) by daroc (editor, #160859) [Link] (3 responses)

Regardless of the precise terms they used, zdzichu is completely correct. We require comments here to be polite, and to avoid personal attacks. Saying that you dislike systemd is perfectly fine. Explaining your technical problems with it is welcome. Being rude about it and personally insulting Lennart isn't.

Please stop this thread of conversion here, and be less vitriolic in your future comments.

flatpacks falling flat, packing bugs, snaps snapping resources, both suck

Posted Mar 21, 2025 14:52 UTC (Fri) by andrejp (guest, #47396) [Link] (2 responses)

Funny how even after it has been thoroughly explained what this is and what this is not, you still found it in you the need to point out how you agree with the labeling. That is actually far more "rude" than anything I've said - you're lecturing me on how comments should be polite and to avoid personal attacks and that rudeness has no place in the comment section, while at the same time completely ignoring everything I've said and just reapplying the labels, even adding more ("vitriolic").

I don't think you see how rude and personally insulting *that* is.

But then again, it's part of the same reason why Lennart has been getting all that flak: snubbing and hand-waving off anyone that happens to not quite fit into the crowd of cheerleaders, or even outright disagrees with the crap that's being pushed on users.

I understand - you don't like words like ass, shit, crap, fuck and so on and so forth. But gee, see what happens if I first snub and hand-wave you off (like I just did - deliberately, not to offend or incite you, but in order to demonstrate a point), then label you with some juicy and colorful labels ("you're 'hating me'", "your comment is full of 'vitriol'", "I find your comment to be 'personally insulting'"). First you're going to "warn" me "politely" (check). That failing, you're going to use "stronger" words ("hate speech", check). That failing, you're going to propose "uninstalling" this uid, 'coz "he's parking 'trucks' (ass, shit, fuck, crap) into the 'living room' (this comment section)" (pending, probably being considered). That still not having the desired effect (new uid), your next step is probably going to be to suggest "uninstalling" the IP this comment has come from. Then probably "uninstalling" by "legal action". And so on.

In other words, you'll want "the *whole* 'truck' out of your fscking 'living room'".

To which my response to you is, again deliberately, in order to demonstrate the point: "please stop with the hate speech", "please stop personally insulting me" and "be less vitriolic in your future comments".

Stop now

Posted Mar 21, 2025 15:14 UTC (Fri) by jzb (editor, #7867) [Link]

OK. Time to end this thread. To be very clear—the comment section is not the place for people to snipe at one another. It's quite OK to have disagreements on topics, but nobody needs or wants to read two or more commenters just arguing with each other. Stop here.

flatpacks falling flat, packing bugs, snaps snapping resources, both suck

Posted Mar 21, 2025 15:15 UTC (Fri) by andrejp (guest, #47396) [Link]

In other words, you're saying "your communication is not welcome here" and "please remove the truck from my living room".

I understand. I apologize for the inconvenience.
Hm. No that's the wrong quote.
So long, and thanks for all the fish?
Lol.