Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 06:46:09 -0600 From: Ean Schuessler <firstname.lastname@example.org> To: email@example.com Subject: More Commercial Java --CUfgB8w4ZwR/yMy5 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB" --tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, Here is a copy of an initial proposal I am bouncing off my first line contact at JavaSoft/Sun. Please give me any feedback. Also, since java-linux.org is not yet taken I am preparing to take it. If it is widely agreed that someone else should hold the domain then I will happily release it. I will probably take action on this so that we don't have the same trouble debian.net and debian.com did. Anyhoo, read the attached. -- ___________________________________________________________________ Ean Schuessler As above Novare International Inc. so below --- Some or all of the above signature may be a joke --tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="JavaLinuxCoop.txt" A Proposal for Improving the Java-Linux Support Problem With the rapidly increasing momentum of the Open Source movement and important recent events such as the Netscape announcement it has become more obvious than ever that Sun/JavaSoft and the Open Source community must maintain a tight and agreeable working relationship. The unique nature of the Open Source movement poses unique problems for a large organization when it comes to support and interaction. The significant intellectual resources of the Open Source movement cannot be denied but the decentralized architecture makes one- to-one interaction difficult, unfamiliar and unwieldy. This is why we have come to you. What we wish to establish is an intermediary organization that reduces the clerical overhead required to interact with our members. We will provide facilities to collect bug reports, patches, improvements, advice and other results of our operation and feed them to your organization in a timely and accessible manner. This will make the proposition of supporting Open Source a more palatable scenario. In turn you will support our members, via our organization, in the manner and with the level of seriousness that our goals require. Our job will be to eliminate noise from the system and make the proposition of supporting the Open Source software constituency more of a business advantage than anything else. Specifically in the case of Java we would like to have early access to source and binaries; access to internal bug-reporting systems and personnel; access to internal development resources such as news groups, mailing lists and newsletters; and basically any other resource that would be made available to a "first class" licensee. Realizing that some of these requests may border on the outrageous for business reasons we may not be aware of, please educate us on what we can or cannot reasonably receive. In order to offset the costs imposed by our needs on your operation we are willing to organize reasonable fund-raising efforts and cost sharing situations. Please be aware, however, that you are not dealing with a multi-national sales organization with extensive revenues but rather with a multi-national collective of Java users with extensive knowledge and influence. This being the case we urge you to consider that we offer you a wealth of that most precious coin, human energy and talent, of which money is only a faceless and second-hand abstraction. It is our most fervent desire to utilize the technologies that your organization has developed, and we hope that you will work with us to arrive at a mutually beneficial relationship. --tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB-- --CUfgB8w4ZwR/yMy5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a iQB1AwUBNOmGkJWhbbF4HS45AQGIzgMAkYPCk78bZWzVb0nsvbdFe2OwKT7KfG7f fzAyk9Vu6o1mqB0IeR5di5j1UZAm6QeBluTL+dz43fu2BGNUXQ9fWnbAHXTnKH7b /JMFHn3qUlSKgrt+QgDr0jZ/WPya+q7y =W4K1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --CUfgB8w4ZwR/yMy5-- -- More information on Java-Linux can be found at: http://www.blackdown.org/java-linux.html This list is archived daily at: http://www.blackdown.org/java-linux/archive/ To unsubscribe from this list: send email to firstname.lastname@example.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. For additional assistance, please contact email@example.com.