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LPC: Upstart 1.0 plans: manifesto for a new init

nix — 2008-09-28T20:25:55+00:00

If you look at it right, it already does. :)

LPC: Upstart 1.0 plans: manifesto for a new init

Oddscurity — 2008-09-28T18:38:31+00:00

The Common Unix Printing System (CUPS) is a service that makes sense to start "30 seconds before the user thinks of clicking on the print button," he said.

Upstart will feature precognition? Now that is impressive.

LPC: Upstart 1.0 plans: manifesto for a new init

ballombe — 2008-09-25T14:37:12+00:00

... and to add to the confusion, Scott is a Debian developer (and so is Miquel van Smoorenburg).

LPC: Upstart 1.0 plans: manifesto for a new init

pdewacht — 2008-09-25T11:08:19+00:00

Debian, and I guess Ubuntu too, by default setup runlevels 2--5 to be identical, because there's no agreement on how they should differ. If you want different stuff in different runlevels, you'll have to configure it yourself.

LPC: Upstart 1.0 plans: manifesto for a new init

rahulsundaram — 2008-09-25T10:05:33+00:00

This works just fine in Fedora 9.

LPC: Upstart 1.0 plans: manifesto for a new init

melo@simplicidade.org — 2008-09-25T10:00:39+00:00

A lot of what upstart is doing is similar to what Darwin launchd does.

I wonder if there isn't good ideas to be taken from launchd. I personally use the directory watchers
with great results.

Best regards,

LPC: Upstart 1.0 plans: manifesto for a new init

aleXXX — 2008-09-25T07:33:50+00:00

Not sure about the current state: in kUbuntu 7.10 upstart doesn't support
some relatively basic init feature, I think it was the different run
levels, i.e. I think I was not able to get different stuff running e.g.
for runlevels 3 and 4 or so.
Will this be supported in 1.0 ?

Alex

LPC: Upstart 1.0 plans: manifesto for a new init

rahulsundaram — 2008-09-25T02:22:34+00:00

"Upstart is in Fedora as of version 9, making it a welcome example of a Canonical-sponsored project finding its way into other distributions."

Last I heard, Upstart is being developed by Scott is his own time and this was apparently confirmed by him earlier on. Nevertheless the software itself is a useful contribution. Distributions that currently use it are still using the old init scripts under compatibility mode and haven't migrated to new upstart style scripts yet which is probably the important step. We won't see any advantages till then.