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      <title>Next Generation POSIX Threads</title>
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      <dc:date>2002-09-26T12:34:19+00:00</dc:date>
      <dc:creator>da4089</dc:creator>
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      re: gnutls ...&lt;p&gt;imo, the best way to distinguish gnutls from openssl is to make the programming api clear, simple, consistent, documented, etc.&lt;p&gt;openssl is a bit of a mess ...
      
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      <title>gnutls</title>
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      <dc:date>2002-09-26T04:24:04+00:00</dc:date>
      <dc:creator>joey</dc:creator>
      <description>
      Having a license that lets you link it to GPL'd code and distibrute the result is a good start..
      
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      <title>Next Generation POSIX Threads</title>
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      <dc:date>2002-09-21T10:33:15+00:00</dc:date>
      <dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
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      &lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&quot;The glibc people never intended for NGPT to replace the
old pthread library.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[though, I can't think why not..]&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My theory: NIH.  glibc, being a GNU project, requires copyright
assignments; perhaps the NGPT people were less than forthcoming at giving
them.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Alternate theory: as Uli notes in his announcement, they concluded that
the complexity of MxN threading does not pay off in performance for
realistic workloads, compared to simply optimising the kernel to handle
large numbers of truly lightweight threads.  MxN was all anyone talked
about a few years ago, but more than one person in this thread &lt;i&gt;(no pun
intended)&lt;/i&gt; on linux-kernel has said 1x1 makes more sense.  One such
person is Larry McVoy, whom I'll trust on scalability issues any day.
(Well, until he disagrees with Dave Miller, like on the numa clusters
thing - hard to know which horse to bet on there!)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Speaking of GNU NIH, does anyone know how does the gnutls project plans
to differentiate themselves from openssl?&lt;/p&gt;
      
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      <title>Next Generation POSIX Threads</title>
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      <dc:date>2002-09-20T18:05:57+00:00</dc:date>
      <dc:creator>Nero</dc:creator>
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      If you have a look at the discussion that followed the original post (you can find it on groups.google.com), this question was asked, Robert Love replied with something along the lines of &amp;quot;The glibc people never intended for NGPT to replace the old pthread library.&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;[though, I can't think why not..]
      
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      <title>Next Generation POSIX Threads</title>
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      <dc:date>2002-09-20T15:48:41+00:00</dc:date>
      <dc:creator>Shewmaker</dc:creator>
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      I was under the impression that &lt;a href&quot;http://www-124.ibm.com/developerworks/oss/pthreads/&quot;&gt;
Next Generation POSIX Threads&lt;/a&gt; were the future of threading 
on Linux.  I know that it is a M:N implementation instead of 1:1, 
but I don't know much else.
&lt;p&gt;
Did NGPT already prove itself to be a poor solution or will we be seeing these two threading solutions duke it out?
&lt;p&gt;
-Andrew

      
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