A Linux-powered microwave oven
Scratching an itch is a recurring theme in presentations at linux.conf.au. As the open-hardware movement gains strength, more and more of these itches relate to the physical world, not just the digital. David Tulloh used his presentation [WebM] on the “Linux Driven Microwave” to discuss how annoying microwave ovens can be and to describe his project to build something less irritating.
Tulloh's story began when he obtained a microwave oven, admittedly an inexpensive one, with a user interface even worse than the norm. Setting the time required pressing buttons so hard that the microwave tended to get pushed away — a fact that was elegantly balanced by the door handle requiring a sufficiently hard tug to return the oven to its original position. While this is clearly an extreme case, Tulloh lamented that microwave ovens really hadn't improved noticeably in recent decades. They may have gotten a little cheaper and gained a few features that few people could use without poring over the instruction manual — the implied contrast to smartphones, which are widely used with little instruction, was clear.
![[Prototype]](https://static.lwn.net/images/2016/lca-oven-sm.jpg)
This microwave oven was not a lost cause — it gave its life to the greater good and became the prototype for an idea that Tulloh hopes to turn into a crowd-funded project if he can find the right match between features and demand: a Linux-driven microwave oven.
Adding novelty
Adding a smartphone-like touchscreen and a network connection and encouraging a community to build innovative apps such as recipe sharing are fairly obvious ideas once you think to put “Linux” and “microwave oven” together, but Tulloh's vision and prototype lead well beyond there. Two novel features that have been fitted are a thermal camera and a scale for measuring weight.
The thermal camera provides an eight-by-eight-pixel image of the contents of the oven with a precision of about two degrees. This is enough to detect if a glass of milk is about to boil over, or if the steak being thawed is in danger of getting cooked. In either case, the power can be reduced or removed. If appropriate, an alert can be sounded. This would not be the first microwave to be temperature sensitive — GE sold microwave ovens with temperature probes decades ago — but an always-present sensor is much more useful than a manually inserted probe, especially when there is an accessible API behind it.
The second innovation is a built-in scale to weigh the food (and container) being cooked. Many recipes give cooking-time guidance based on weight and some microwave ovens allow you to enter the weight manually so it can do a calculation for you. With built-in scales, that can become automatic. Placing a scale reliably under the rotating plate typical of many microwave ovens would be a mechanical challenge that Tulloh did not think worth confronting. Instead his design is based on the “flat-plate” or “flat-bed” style of oven — placing a sensor at each of the four corners is mechanically straightforward and gives good results.
![[User interface]](https://static.lwn.net/images/2016/lca-ovengui-sm.png)
Once you have these extra sensors — weight and temperature — connected to a suitable logic engine, more interesting possibilities can be explored. A cup of cold milk from the fridge will have a particular weight and temperature profile with a modest degree of error. Tulloh suggested that situation could be detected and some relevant options such as “Boil” or “Warm” could be offered for easy selection (a mock up of the interface is at right, a clickable version is here). Simple machine learning could extend this to create a personalized experience. It would be easy to collect a history of starting profiles and cooking choices; when those patterns are detected, the most likely cooking choices could be made the easiest to select.
Overcoming staleness
Beyond just new functionality, Tulloh wants to improve the functionality that already exists. Door handles as stiff as on Tulloh's cheap microwave may not be common, but few microwave oven doors seem designed to make life easy for people with physical handicaps. There are regulatory restrictions, particularly in the US, that require the oven to function only if there is positive confirmation that the door is actually shut. This confirmation must be resilient against simple fraud, so poking a stick in the hole must not trick the oven into working with the door open. In fact, there must be two independent confirmations and, if they disagree, a fuse must be blown so that a service call is required. Tulloh believes that a magnetic latch would provide much greater flexibility (including easy software control) and that magnetic keying similar to that used in a magnetic keyed lock would allow the magnetic latch to pass certification.
Another pain point with microwave ovens is the annoying sounds they make. Tulloh has discarded the beeper and hooked up a speaker to the Banana Pi that is controlling his prototype. This allows for more pleasant and configurable alerts as well as for advice and guidance through a text-to-speech system. Adding a microphone for voice control is an obvious next step.
Many microwave ovens can do more than just set a time and a power level — they provide a range of power profiles for cooking, warming, defrosting, and so on. Adding precise temperature sensing will allow the community to extend this range substantially. A question from Andrew Tridgell in the audience wondered if tempering chocolate — a process that requires very precise temperature control — would be possible. Tulloh had no experience with the process, and couldn't make promises, but thought it was certainly worth looking in to. Even if that doesn't work out, it shows clear potential for value to be gained from community input.
Availability
Tulloh would very much like to get these Linux-enabled microwave ovens out into the world to create a community and see where it goes. Buying existing ovens and replacing the electronics is not seen as a viable option. The result would be ugly and, given that a small-run smart microwave will inevitably cost more, potential buyers are going to want something that doesn't look completely out of place in their kitchen.
Many components are available off-the-shelf (magnetron, processor board, thermal sensor) and others, such as a USB interface for the thermal sensor, are easily built. Prototype software is, of course, already available on GitHub. The case and door are more of a challenge and would need to be made to order. Tulloh wants to turn this adversity into an opportunity by providing the option for left-handed microwave ovens and a variety of colors.
A quick survey of the audience suggested that few people would hastily commit to his target price of $AU1000 for a new, improved, open oven. Whether a bit more time for reflection and a wider audience might tip the balance is hard to know. The idea is intriguing, so it seems worth watching Tulloh's blog for updates.
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GuestArticles | Brown, Neil |
Conference | linux.conf.au/2016 |
Posted Feb 10, 2016 22:19 UTC (Wed)
by tshow (subscriber, #6411)
[Link] (1 responses)
Posted Feb 13, 2016 4:54 UTC (Sat)
by pr1268 (guest, #24648)
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I thought you might be referring to this story, which also discusses two types of toasters. Perhaps the $20 toaster Donald Norman reminisces about is the model the king's electrical engineer whipped up, while the ₩250,000 model is the one for which the computer scientist was beheaded. ;-) Apparently, there's a big market for appliances (well, software, too) that have complex, extraneous, and (generally) unneeded whiz-bang features. At least in Korea, where having a refrigerator with a control panel that looks like a nuclear power plant control room is a status symbol.
Posted Feb 10, 2016 22:33 UTC (Wed)
by df5ea (subscriber, #59450)
[Link] (14 responses)
Posted Feb 11, 2016 1:04 UTC (Thu)
by pr1268 (guest, #24648)
[Link] (3 responses)
I doubt it. Most microwave ovens these days are mounted permanently into the cabinetry. It'd be impossible to accurately weigh the contents with an external scale.
Posted Feb 11, 2016 5:41 UTC (Thu)
by roskegg (subscriber, #105)
[Link] (2 responses)
Posted Feb 11, 2016 21:33 UTC (Thu)
by drag (guest, #31333)
[Link] (1 responses)
Then to keep it from wiggling around you'd have to have some extruded aluminum railings or something like that as well. Then you'll have to test it to make sure that as the thing ages the vibrations from the transformer or microwave radio to do do anything odd to create a noise in the system and various other things. And it all has to be robust enough to survive shipping and being handled by the customer.
All in all adding platform with a couple sensors under it in the oven is easier.
Posted Feb 13, 2016 9:44 UTC (Sat)
by lbt (subscriber, #29672)
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Trivial to calibrate and recalibrate too.
Posted Feb 11, 2016 5:40 UTC (Thu)
by roskegg (subscriber, #105)
[Link] (5 responses)
Posted Feb 11, 2016 6:59 UTC (Thu)
by ernest (guest, #2355)
[Link] (4 responses)
Posted Feb 11, 2016 7:31 UTC (Thu)
by felixfix (subscriber, #242)
[Link] (3 responses)
Posted Feb 11, 2016 20:34 UTC (Thu)
by iabervon (subscriber, #722)
[Link] (1 responses)
I think the points where the internals are mounted to the case might be the best place to measure, although any of these clever measurement locations depends on having a connection that's both secure and measures pressure.
Posted Feb 12, 2016 16:14 UTC (Fri)
by flussence (guest, #85566)
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Posted Feb 12, 2016 16:53 UTC (Fri)
by drag (guest, #31333)
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You have to touch the machine in order to make that happening. You can't weigh something accurately as people are manipulating it.
Posted Feb 11, 2016 11:27 UTC (Thu)
by jnareb (subscriber, #46500)
[Link] (3 responses)
The rotating plate in microwave oven is here to ensure even heating. If it is not used, then (probably more expensive) metal wave guide stirring fan is needed.
Posted Feb 11, 2016 21:36 UTC (Thu)
by neilbrown (subscriber, #359)
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Ahhh. That's what they are called. That explained the "stirrer" in the slide at
Posted Feb 12, 2016 19:13 UTC (Fri)
by bronson (subscriber, #4806)
[Link] (1 responses)
Don't most microwaves have both? Just looked, our crappy Frigidaire has both. Sample size of 1.
Posted Feb 15, 2016 0:11 UTC (Mon)
by giraffedata (guest, #1954)
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That makes some sense. Customers are acutely aware of uneven heating problems in microwaves, so will pay more for something that seems to address that. But that uneven heating is actually caused by uneven composition of the food, so the turntable doesn't help.
Posted Feb 11, 2016 10:46 UTC (Thu)
by fratti (guest, #105722)
[Link] (20 responses)
I'm sure everybody in here has one or more home appliances where 90% of the buttons go unused because it's just not worth the hassle to look up what they do, mostly because the basic functionality already does the job well enough. Here, the sensors also give you a feeling of confidence that the functions actually work as advertised, since it's not just a pre-programmed set of parameters, and they also provide protection against both human and machine error when using basic microwave functionality.
IoT vendors, take note. Features should not be tacked on, but actually make sense in the context of the whole product.
What irks me though is that it seems like there is no effort to arrive at a coherent well-rounded product, especially considering proposed "features" such as voice input. I've never particularly felt the need to talk to my microwave as pressing a button is usually faster and less involved. I'm also not too sure about the touch screen; I feel like all common interactions one might have with a microwave interface could be achieved at a lower cost with a better feel by combining a display with some context-dependant physical buttons and turn knobs below or on the side.
Posted Feb 11, 2016 21:46 UTC (Thu)
by neilbrown (subscriber, #359)
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Neither have I. But my father-in-law had "the shakes" - his hands only did approximately what he asked them to. Buttons are often unforgiving if you hit the wrong one or press too many times. His voice worked perfectly well though.
Posted Feb 12, 2016 14:59 UTC (Fri)
by fratti (guest, #105722)
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Posted Feb 12, 2016 0:14 UTC (Fri)
by pr1268 (guest, #24648)
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A resounding "Amen!" to that. A microwave oven is merely a Faraday cage with a magnetron, a lamp, a swing-out latching front door, and an on/off switch for the magnetron (since it only has two working states: full-power and off). I find it oddly eccentric that the appliance companies have seemed bent for the past several decades on adding all these fancy bells & whistles to microwave ovens to fine-tune the heating parameters. Note that I said "heating" and not "cooking"—you really can't cook with a microwave oven. And, considering how dielectric heating works, you can't effectively heat anything which does not contain water. I sincerely do not mean to impugn Mr. Tulloh's hard work nor Neil's excellent article. In fact, I'm quite impressed with some of the ingenuity shown by this project. But, there's something to be said about the KISS method—especially when you're working with a device that has only two discrete states of operation. </minor rant> P.S. I have fond memories of using my grandmother's microwave oven (vintage early 1980's). It had only two controls: (1) an egg timer-style power knob, and (2) a large mechanical latch button to open the door. Worked great for years.
Posted Feb 12, 2016 14:55 UTC (Fri)
by robbe (guest, #16131)
[Link] (1 responses)
David’s additions, though, seem to provide more value than the usual ones (a clock that’s always wrong, silly menus, …). I especially like the infrared sensor. I am less excited about the lack of a turntable. But maybe this spinner part can replace it reliably?
Posted Feb 19, 2016 18:37 UTC (Fri)
by Wol (subscriber, #4433)
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And both hers and mine have various features I would NOT want to lose. Namely heating elements at the top (commonly known as "a grill"), and at the back (commonly known as a "fan oven").
Our kitchen now has a conventional oven and a combi-oven built-in, and the combination is great. Incidentally, for those who think AU$1K is expensive, if I could get a built-in combi for that price I would consider it very good value for money.
The one big problem with our new - analog - combi is we have to remember to check the settings each time we use it. My old - digital - oven reset itself back to its defaults after every use. It also had the ability to set several programs to run consecutively - made superb baked tatties - set it for 10 mins on combi followed by 10 mins on fan oven and one lovely tatty. Our new analog you have to do the first setting, then when it bleeps "finished" you need to go back and reset it for the second setting.
Cheers,
Posted Feb 12, 2016 15:21 UTC (Fri)
by fratti (guest, #105722)
[Link] (9 responses)
I have this creeping suspicion that's it's an attempt to differentiate themselves from the competition without actually having to innovate. A lot of home appliances have come to a state where it would take some serious engineering to make a substantial improvement over previous models (which is expensive), so to keep up a fake air of technological evolution (as we've come to expect it from other devices such as computers or phones), they just tack things on that makes them look more advanced than it really is.
One anecdote I have of kitchen appliances that have essentially reached an innovation plateau is when my family's old hand mixer broke. We've had it for probably over a decade, maybe even more. When my mother came back from the store, she did so with the exact same model. Same white plastic mould that would slowly become yellow over the years with a teal push button on the top to release the attachments and one switch that had several positions to adjust speed, powered with a somewhat flimsy two-wire power cord. Not only did they still produce and sell it, the salesman even recommended it to her, because essentially there have been no improvements over the years. Yes, maybe internally the power supply or the motor were using newer parts, but it's still just an electric motor that you can plug into a wall outlet to spin mixing or puréeing attachments of various shapes.
Posted Feb 12, 2016 17:02 UTC (Fri)
by raven667 (subscriber, #5198)
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OMFG yes, I actually find that for many appliances, they really peaked in the 1950s and the actual utility has been on a plateau or decline since then. Maybe I am just getting old and cranky but I'm not excited about tools like the Nest thermostat or fancy Microwave because the more software the harder it is to reason about what the device is going to do, it becomes a mysterious black box with rules that you just can't quite spend the mental effort to figure out, because we all have better things to do with our time. Instead of our appliances being tools we use we become tools for babysitting the appliances, and a machine for vomiting up cash to the manufacturer.
There is also a lot of advertising out there to convince people that every chore is just _too_hard_ and you need a much larger number of appliances than are really necessary. Take a look at one of the many cooking competition shows to see how many appliances are actually useful in a kitchen.
Posted Feb 12, 2016 19:14 UTC (Fri)
by rgmoore (✭ supporter ✭, #75)
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I'm not sure I'd go that far, but I agree that development is very slow, especially compared to anything involving computers. The key is that for anything, the biggest change is from having nothing to having something, and after that it's mostly refinement, and often with declining returns. An icebox is a huge improvement over nothing, a refrigerator is a big advance over an icebox, but after that you're chasing improvements in convenience and efficiency rather than basic function. Similarly, many of the changes to the microwave (e.g. turntable for the food, variable power level) are real improvements, but they're marginal advances compared to getting one in the first place.
Posted Feb 12, 2016 19:17 UTC (Fri)
by bronson (subscriber, #4806)
[Link] (3 responses)
Now that's progress!
Posted Feb 18, 2016 12:54 UTC (Thu)
by nye (subscriber, #51576)
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Posted Feb 18, 2016 14:29 UTC (Thu)
by spaetz (guest, #32870)
[Link] (1 responses)
Easy, so it can order champagne when you have planned your next orgy. SCNR
Posted Feb 19, 2016 0:23 UTC (Fri)
by dfsmith (guest, #20302)
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Posted Feb 13, 2016 23:35 UTC (Sat)
by mathstuf (subscriber, #69389)
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Those "As Seen on TV" bits should be viewed in light of being targeted at those with disabilities or handicaps. The reason they show normal people purposefully failing is because someone with Parkinson's failing to cleanly break an egg is not something anyone wants to tape, be taped doing, or watch.
Posted Feb 14, 2016 2:51 UTC (Sun)
by raven667 (subscriber, #5198)
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Posted Feb 12, 2016 19:02 UTC (Fri)
by rgmoore (✭ supporter ✭, #75)
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Pretty much. Most of them are relatively simple mechanical tools for performing mechanical tasks- chopping, mixing, blending, etc.- so that there isn't a huge amount to change. They seem to do a few basic things- changing cosmetics, expanding the product line to larger or smaller models, making the motor more powerful, or just trying to squeeze out production costs- that don't change the basic functions. There is some genuine innovation out there- I've been amazingly happy with my induction range, which is a huge advance over conventional electric stoves- but it happens much slower than in tech.
Posted Feb 13, 2016 5:13 UTC (Sat)
by luto (guest, #39314)
[Link] (4 responses)
Not quite. The Panasonic "inverter" ovens (and their licensees) do a credible job of running at partial power.
Posted Feb 13, 2016 7:45 UTC (Sat)
by pr1268 (guest, #24648)
[Link] (2 responses)
Interesting... I was thinking of inventing a microwave oven with two independently-controlled magnetrons, each with a different thermal power rating (e.g. 400W and 700W). Any combination of running either/both could give three different heating states (approx. 1/3, 2/3, and full power). Running one continuously and the other toggling on/off (partial load) could give even more discrete power levels. Of course, there's the unwritten postulate that the complexity of mechanical devices with n parts is O(n1.5). Or thereabouts. Adding another magnetron would make the microwave oven unnecessarily more complicated. Oh, well...
Posted Feb 17, 2016 23:58 UTC (Wed)
by opalmirror (subscriber, #23465)
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Posted Feb 20, 2016 22:46 UTC (Sat)
by pr1268 (guest, #24648)
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Dammit, Jim, I'm a computer scientist, not an electrical engineer with a background in microwave propagation effects! ;-) Of course, my "invention" was just a thought-concept; the scenario you just described succinctly (and graphically) describes why such a microwave oven has not been introduced. Like I said, for n extra parts, O(n1.5) complexity... A sincere thank you for enlightening me. :-)
Posted Feb 16, 2016 16:18 UTC (Tue)
by sdalley (subscriber, #18550)
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Went back to a more straightforward on-off microwave, which is is still going fine after 3 years.
KISS, indeed.
Posted Feb 11, 2016 23:33 UTC (Thu)
by dlang (guest, #313)
[Link] (4 responses)
unlikely, not because the controls aren't precise enough, but rather because the heat generated is so uneven. This is why most microwaves have turntables in them, to try and move the food around through the hot/cold spots.
Microwaves operate at ~2.4GHz and the wavelength at that frequency is ~5 inches, so your hot spots are going to end up far enough apart that they won't be solved by natural convection through the item being heated.
Posted Feb 12, 2016 11:20 UTC (Fri)
by johill (subscriber, #25196)
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Posted Feb 12, 2016 19:05 UTC (Fri)
by bronson (subscriber, #4806)
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It's about as good as you can reasonably get... If microwaves were spherical and had multiple entry horns (not sure the correct term) then they could cook a little better but, of course, they'd be much harder to package and produce. And there would still be hot and cold spots -- uneven heating is as much a feature of the food as the oven.
Maybe one day we'll have variable-frequency phased array microwaves that use feedback to direct heat right to the cool spots. (dibs on the patent!)
Posted Feb 12, 2016 20:32 UTC (Fri)
by boog (subscriber, #30882)
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Posted Feb 13, 2016 16:05 UTC (Sat)
by flussence (guest, #85566)
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Posted Feb 15, 2016 14:15 UTC (Mon)
by ortalo (guest, #4654)
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This reminds me of the old toaster story, somehow.
A Linux-powered microwave oven
The toaster story actually there's another toaster story, sort of
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Placing a scale reliably under the rotating plate typical of many microwave ovens would be a mechanical challenge that Tulloh did not think worth confronting. Instead his design is based on the “flat-plate” or “flat-bed” style of oven — placing a sensor at each of the four corners is mechanically straightforward and gives good results.
Wouldn't it be easier to weigh the whole oven instead? That way the weighing mechanism would be independent of the mechanics inside the oven.
A Linux-powered microwave oven
Wouldn't it be easier to weigh the whole oven instead? That way the weighing mechanism would be independent of the mechanics inside the oven.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3DADx5z-XY&t=183
which had me mystified.
Thanks.
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I read once that the stirrer is fully effective and the only reason for the turntable is that it seems to customers to be helpful.
turntable vs microwave scatterer in oven
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And the other commenter who carries a bowl of soup with two hands... imagine the solenoid which usually locks the door being given a reverse current when you say "Open Sesame" so that the door swings gently open.
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I'm sure everybody in here has one or more home appliances where 90% of the buttons go unused because it's just not worth the hassle to look up what they do, mostly because the basic functionality already does the job well enough.
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A Linux-powered microwave oven
Wol
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I actually find that for many appliances, they really peaked in the 1950s and the actual utility has been on a plateau or decline since then.
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A lot of home appliances have come to a state where it would take some serious engineering to make a substantial improvement over previous models (which is expensive), so to keep up a fake air of technological evolution (as we've come to expect it from other devices such as computers or phones), they just tack things on that makes them look more advanced than it really is.
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Partial-power microwave oven
Not quite. The Panasonic "inverter" ovens (and their licensees) do a credible job of running at partial power.
So here you have two magnetrons relatively tightly coupled, resonant at approximately the same frequency, one powered and one unpowered. To me it seems the unpowered magnetron acts as an ideal resonant antenna to receive RF power from the powered magnetron. Even if the unpowered magnetron is connected to an open circuit, I'd expect significant currents and waste heat generation.
If both magnetrons are powered and coherent (same frequency), then synchronization of their output might be tricky - they would have to be in the same phase, or they would be exchanging a lot of power one to the other. The fact one is twice the power of the second could mean the large magnetron may burn up the smaller magnetron or send current back into its power supply.
Maybe you could detune them (different frequencies) and/or use a cavity resonator as a narrow pass filter so that one magnetron isn't very much affected by the other. Cavity resonators would add mass and size and no doubt reduce efficiency by producing still more heat.
Just thinking...
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Partial-power microwave oven
Cavity resonators would add mass and size and no doubt reduce efficiency by producing still more heat.
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Please, do not forget to include an instance of a decent security kernel able to *prohibit* the development and installation of and computer game on the oven touch screen interface, especially those of the variety involving throwing distinguised species of volatiles or mammals onto each others and their baricades.
If you fail that, your loved one and yourself will lament all day on the unavailability of all the kitchen devices and the incredible overheads added to all day to day operations around breakfast, lunch, dinner - due to preemption by your own (little) loved ones.