How canceled is Firefox OS?
On December 8, TechCrunch reported from Mozilla's annual developer meeting that Mozilla had announced it was putting an end to its Firefox OS smartphone program. The announcement spread quickly—but with quite a bit of variation as to exactly what aspects of Firefox OS were being shut down. A number of tech-industry bloggers, for example, characterized the move as Mozilla "ditching" or even "killing" Firefox OS itself. But the actual statement published at TechCrunch was more limited in scope—although it still leaves many unanswered questions about where Firefox OS is heading next.
The primary complication is that the announcement in question was
evidently made on
stage at the Mozilla event, and so far no video or transcript of the
session has been published. What did make it out of the room at the
time were
tweets from attendees; TechCrunch quoted Georg Fritzsche's, which said:
"Honesty & courage for Firefox OS: back off from commercial
shipping, re-iterate as innovation project 'connected
devices'.
" It is not entirely clear from the phrasing of the
article whether the TechCrunch story's author was present for the talk.
The story characterizes the announced change as Mozilla
saying "it would stop developing and selling Firefox OS
smartphones.
" At a minimum, that could be taken to mean that
Mozilla will not be producing any more Firefox OS developer
devices. There have been five such devices in the past: two variants of
the
Geeksphone,
two of the the ZTE
Open, and one of the Flame.
Over the past year, there has been increasing interest in using Google
Nexus phones as developer devices. They are easier to acquire,
considerably more powerful, and can easily be reflashed to Android if
one so chooses.
Meanwhile, there have been sixteen consumer
Firefox OS phones. Given that level of activity and the
de-emphasis on developer devices, die-hard Firefox OS fans could be forgiven for
interpreting the announcement in the least-drastic sense: as Mozilla's
decision to forgo new developer-device production runs for the foreseeable future.
The TechCrunch story also quotes a statement released by
Mozilla's head of "Connected Devices," Ari Jaaksi, who said "we
weren’t able to offer the best user experience possible and so we will
stop offering Firefox OS smartphones through carrier channels. We’ll
share more on our work and new experiments across connected devices
soon.
" Although still a bit on the nebulous side, that comment
does seem to indicate that Mozilla is shifting the focus of its
Firefox OS efforts, rather than simply not launching yet another model
of smartphone.
Some readers may remember Jaaksi from his days at Nokia, where he
oversaw the launch of the Maemo platform. While Maemo met an untimely
end concurrent with changes in Nokia's upper management, the platform
is still remembered fondly by quite a few in the free-software
community. Since the announcement, Jaaksi had made several comments
on Twitter. First, saying
"Mozilla will stop offering Firefox OS phones through
carriers. But we will continue improving web experience on
smartphones.
" Later, he added:
"FirefoxOS is alive and strong, but the push through carriers is
over. We pivot to IoT and user experience.
"
Citing the Internet of Things (IoT) as the new emphasis for Firefox OS may seem strange, considering how smartphone-driven the project's marketing has been so far (it was initially touted, after all, as the mobile OS that would power inexpensive phones in developing economies). But support for other device types has been included for quite some time; the Mozilla wiki highlights smart TVs in particular, with passing references to tablets and smart watches. There have been occasional glimmers of other product types; in 2014 we reported on thin-client desktops like VIA's APC line.
But these alternative device platforms never seemed to attract much
attention, and they were not the small, physical-computing device
types most people mean when they use the term IoT. Only this past
week has there been a report of an IoT-style device built with Firefox OS in mind: the CHIRIMEN, a
single-board computer developed in Japan that includes a set of GPIO
and I2C headers. The FirefoxOSCentral blog reported
on its existence on December 5, though little in the way of hard
information is available yet. The CHIRIMEN appears to be produced independently, but it is possible that the development
team (called Mozilla Factory) has some sort of relationship with
Mozilla: the About
describes it as "Organized by Mozilla Japan
". It can also be rather hard to reconcile IoT
with Firefox, since so many IoT products are embedded systems without
displays or input devices.
For its part, FirefoxOSCentral responded
to the December 8 announcement by saying there was " To be fair, whether any news is "cause for alarm" is subjective and
personal. FirefoxOSCentral may be more invested in the OS project
than the average blog, but the fact remains that the details in the
TechCrunch story are fairly sparse. In addition, they answer few of
the pertinent
questions, like whether or not any Mozilla developers have been
re-tasked to other projects or whether the Firefox OS roadmap has
changed. There simply have not been clear statements from Mozilla on
these practical matters, and it may be quite some time before any are
provided. The developer event runs until December 12,
and those involved may decide to spend additional time preparing any
further announcements, given how this most recent one played out.
For the time being, Firefox OS automated builds and QA tests are
still happening on a regular basis, with reports appearing in the
recently launched "Foxfooding" discussion forum.
Asa Dotzler has also been regularly posting changelog reports to the forum.
While commits are not overwhelming in their volume, they do appear to
be steady. Some individuals at Mozilla have also posted reassurances that development
continues unabated. On top of that, one cannot help but notice that the schedule for the developer
event contains a heavy dose of Firefox OS sessions.
In recent years, Mozilla has developed a bit of a reputation for
making surprise announcements that incite some degree of backlash and
then subsequently require clarification—see the recent
Thunderbird-abandonment story, for example. So it is understandable
that the public might take an obscurely worded statement like that in the
TechCrunch story and assume the worst. But it also remains possible
that Mozilla's plans for Firefox OS have actually changed very little,
and it will simply be several more days or weeks before the clarified
story is released. The uncertainty can be frustrating for those who
care about the project, but that is one of the side effects of a news
story built on top of a single, brief source report.
The most that can be said now is that changes will surely be
coming down the pipe for Firefox OS, but that no one outside of the
decision makers at Mozilla know for sure what those changes will be.no cause for alarm:"
Posted Dec 10, 2015 2:10 UTC (Thu)
by louie (guest, #3285)
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Ari's blog post is fairly clear:Firefox phones are pretty canceled; OS may live on in IoT?
"We will make space for [exploration of IoT] by stopping our work to build and ship smartphones through carrier partners."
Sounds like some parts of FFoxOS will live on in IoT efforts.
Posted Dec 10, 2015 4:38 UTC (Thu)
by drag (guest, #31333)
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I've said it before... if people really want a viable open source/free software mobile system then Android is going to be the best bet.
Using a 'google-less' android phone is already possible and the big problems that plague people wanting to have a 100% free software Android (drivers, vendor support, etc) are going to plague every single other embedded Linux effort out there. The advantage to using Android is that you don't have to write the entire OS first before you can tackle those items.
Posted Dec 10, 2015 15:22 UTC (Thu)
by louie (guest, #3285)
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Posted Dec 15, 2015 15:44 UTC (Tue)
by ceplm (subscriber, #41334)
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However, now I am getting bitten straight by one sneaky lie of FxOS development. Apps on FxOS Marketplace are actually not true HTML5 Apps run anywhere, but substantial part of them expect to have Gaia available. So, no, I couldn't even use Notepad or help to develop Calendar or Contacts, because are not actually true webapps, but just platform-bound apps for one particular non-standard OS. Sad world.
Matěj
Posted Dec 10, 2015 2:56 UTC (Thu)
by Tester (guest, #40675)
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I'm a bit surprised about the mention of IoT, these devices tend to use very low power (low end) SoCs that have nowhere near the space/performance for something like FirefoxOS, often devices with 16 or 32MB of flash and RAM. Unless there is a "Firefox OS" that is just a kernel and busybox, but not Gecko, I fail to see how it could be used. So I assume that they mean something different with IoT, possibly just non-general purpose devices? I'm really curious to hear more from Ari and the rest of the team at Mozilla.
Posted Dec 10, 2015 9:17 UTC (Thu)
by bronson (subscriber, #4806)
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Sure, some people stretch IoT to include big industrial controllers with big displays. Those guys are already running Windows or their own crazy stacks... it's hard to picture any of them switching.
Set-top boxes, IVI, smart TVs, areas where WebOS was going to be used... THOSE seem like good targets for Firefox OS to me.
Posted Dec 10, 2015 14:21 UTC (Thu)
by jani (subscriber, #74547)
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Funny you should mention WebOS, some might remember Jaaksi was there too. So how canceled is Firefox OS? https://mobile.twitter.com/jaaksi/status/104307041681670144
Posted Dec 10, 2015 14:48 UTC (Thu)
by spaetz (guest, #32870)
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And before that he was at Nokia doing Maemo :-).
Posted Dec 10, 2015 19:08 UTC (Thu)
by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523)
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Posted Dec 11, 2015 11:16 UTC (Fri)
by jwildebo (guest, #38479)
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https://www.yahoo.com/tech/s/startup-aims-home-devices-sm...
Posted Dec 17, 2015 12:52 UTC (Thu)
by pboddie (guest, #50784)
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"Never seemed to attract much attention"? VIA's offering certainly didn't, but now we have people squabbling over the latest Raspberry Pi offering, and there is a long list of single-board computers that are effectively "thin clients", at least in hardware terms (given that people seem to be using them as "normal" clients). I agree that IoT is something else, though.
Firefox phones are pretty canceled; OS may live on in IoT?
Firefox phones are pretty canceled; OS may live on in IoT?
Firefox phones are pretty canceled; OS may live on in IoT?
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How canceled is Firefox OS?
How canceled is Firefox OS?
How canceled is Firefox OS?
How canceled is Firefox OS?
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Thin-client desktops
There have occasional glimmers of other product types; in 2014 we reported on thin-client desktops like VIA's APC line. But these alternative device platforms never seemed to attract much attention, and they were not the small, physical-computing device types most people mean when they use the term IoT.