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Email Sender ID: The hype and the reality (NewsForge)
NewsForge looks at
sender authentication in the fight against spam. "Technical
methods of verifying sender identification are going to go forward. Exactly
which ones make it and which don't are the only real questions. But the
non-technical barriers make it seem unlikely to this writer at least that
they will have much of a lasting impact, given today's commercial
environment."
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Email Sender ID: The hype and the reality (NewsForge) Posted Aug 27, 2004 5:15 UTC (Fri) by xoddam (subscriber, #2322) [Link] I'd call this an improvement in the quality of NewsForge articles byseveral orders of magnitude. You might actually call it journalism. Thanks, Joe.
Email Sender ID: The hype and the reality (NewsForge) Posted Aug 27, 2004 15:11 UTC (Fri) by ncm (subscriber, #165) [Link] If you don't read the article, at least read the final quote from Paul Vixie:No "designated sender scheme" will ever be able to cut down the amount of spam that's sent, or received. All it can do is help domain holders avoid the brand dilution of having their domain name forged by spammers. This is a valuable contribution, but we must make it clear that none of these schemes will stop or even slow spam, and that their benefits accrue to domain holders, not to spam recipients.
Email Sender ID: The hype and the reality (NewsForge) Posted Aug 27, 2004 22:03 UTC (Fri) by dlang (✭ supporter ✭, #313) [Link] actually this is accurate, eliminating forged headers will not BY ITSELF cut the amount of spam at all. To many places in the world allow you to get domains so easily that a spammer can buy a domain for a year, configure SPF or caller-id to allow mail to be sent from his zombie machines, spam like crazy for a few days, and then abandon the domain and repeat the process with another one.
and you don't really want to make it hard for people to get domains or you hurt the legitimate small folks as well (and besides, how are you going to police domain issuing rules around the world)
eliminating forged from addresses is a useful thing, but by itself it will not eliminate spam
Email Sender ID: The hype and the reality (NewsForge) Posted Aug 29, 2004 11:19 UTC (Sun) by markc (subscriber, #4419) [Link] I've been using bogofilter with a simple IMAP setup for the last two yearsand that has virtually eliminated spam from my inbox. That is, on the server before it gets to my computer... if I didn't have this option I would use a client based solution anyway... so solving the problem of users getting spam has had a good technical solution for years now. I have not had one single spam email in my inbox in all of 2004, so far. So what's this problem I keep hearing about? There is no reason why "everyone" could not take advantage of this solution, amongst many others, and all help make it a complete waste of time for spammers to spam in the first place. Now, *if* govts actually made it illegal to spam so there could be a few high profile spam cases, with the fraudstars thrown in goal, then the spam "problem" could be over and done with in as little as 12 months. Spam has got to be one of the biggest problems that does not have to be a problem that I've ever come across. I don't understand... the solutions are so obvious and easy... well the govt one may not be so easy but avoiding the reception of spam on a purely technical level is.
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