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The Toshiba Standoff (Linux Journal)The Toshiba Standoff (Linux Journal)Posted Sep 14, 2002 12:01 UTC (Sat) by eyal (subscriber, #949)Parent article: The Toshiba Standoff (Linux Journal) If you can't get rid of the unwanted OS license before purchase, just don't buy the product. What's the point of purchasing and then whining? I understand it's much more comfy to be able to buy your favorite hardware brands, but when you do so, you only convince them that they can get away with their MS agreement. The best way to make it clear to Microsoft and Toshiba (and Sony etc.) that you don't like their licensing policy, is NOT to give them any money for their offerings. There are several vendors that sell hardware without an OS or with Linux pre-installed. Give your money to them. Eyal.
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The Toshiba Standoff (Linux Journal) Posted Sep 15, 2002 17:53 UTC (Sun) by Baylink (guest, #755) [Link] > The best way to make it clear to Microsoft and Toshiba (and Sony etc.) that you don't like their licensing policy, is NOT to give them any money for their offerings.And I thought the privacy problems in the current decade were bad enough... now you tell me that Microsoft and Toshiba have people reading my mind? No, that is *not* the best approach, because *they never hear about it*. Indeed, buying the product and then forcing the conflict in license agreements to court *is* the best approach... and wasn't Microsoft enjoined against *requiring* manufacturer to ship their OS's on *all* machines anyway? Oh yeah, that's just the government; why would that make any difference to Microsoft?
The Toshiba Standoff (Linux Journal) Posted Sep 19, 2002 2:04 UTC (Thu) by tillmanj (guest, #3764) [Link] You can add IBM to that list, with Sony & Toshiba. I was going to buy 5 Thinkpad A31p from them for my company, but was told in no uncertain terms that they would not sell them naked, and that they considered their sales contract to be tacit agreement to all EULAs. So much for the IBM loves Linux PR stunt.That sucks, because I don't know of a decent replacement for the A31p (5400 rpm HDD in particular), but I'll be damned if I'll support Microsoft. Now I wish I hadn't bought an Xserver from them either.
The Toshiba Standoff (Linux Journal) Posted Sep 16, 2002 12:00 UTC (Mon) by AleksanderNevsky (guest, #3699) [Link] Thank you, finally the voice of sanity breaks through. I hear far too much whining about this sort of issue in the Linux community. It's not particularly difficult to find a laptop w/o windows. I have just ordered one myself.Try Asus, Aopen, just to name 2.
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