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Anonymous, Open Source P2P with MUTE (O'ReillyNet)

Anonymous, Open Source P2P with MUTE (O'ReillyNet)

Posted Aug 14, 2004 6:40 UTC (Sat) by bilateralrope (guest, #23986)
In reply to: Anonymous, Open Source P2P with MUTE (O'ReillyNet) by lacostej
Parent article: Anonymous, Open Source P2P with MUTE (O'ReillyNet)

I think i see your point for the use of p2p programs, but i doubt that i will ever make any legal use of MUTE as i have no problem with my ip being visible for legal purposes.

Recently I heard of a university who wrote a program that made it eaiser to see what people were sharing over a university lan (they shared through windows file sharing). As a large portion of the files he catologed were of mp3s, the riaa sued him and took all the money he had because he couldn't afford to fight the lawsuit. I am a bit skecthy on the actual deatiles of this though. Because of this, I can see the riaa comming at him with a lawsuit of some kind.

As i have never been to the US, I can see that i may be mistaken on this, I will just have to wait and see what happens.


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Anonymous, Open Source P2P with MUTE (O'ReillyNet)

Posted Aug 14, 2004 20:35 UTC (Sat) by msmelov (guest, #11243) [Link]

yet you use bittorrent...is everything you download legal? Is it legal, but seem questionable? Like TV Shows with commercials cut out. If everyone did that there would be no shows. I honestly don't know the legality of the issue. So I myself would not want to download those shows using bittorrent as my IP is revealed to my peers. Suprnova is very popular and may soon be under the eye of the RIAA, if it isn't already. In which case they can connect to a torrent themselves, and extract IPs by the handful.

Some one at my old university had a simple interface to the campus windows/samba network. There were a few actually. One got sued because he had a gui program atop the interface to the database, he basically had to settle for the ~$12K USD that he had. He then had to take out a loan to pay for his last year. The ones with web interfaces were told to cease and desist. They now switched to a forum where people post what they want to share.

With your IP out in the clear, you take a big risk.

Anonymous, Open Source P2P with MUTE (O'ReillyNet)

Posted Aug 15, 2004 2:34 UTC (Sun) by bilateralrope (guest, #23986) [Link]

As i have not heard of the riaa going after anyone outside of the US, and that the riaa has only gone after the people who were sharing large ammounts, i believe myself to get not much more than a warning for the first time.

I have heard of people recieving letters from their isp's about them sharing vairous content through bittorrent, but that is all.

I also believe that the sites that list the torrents (like suprnova) will get into trouble before the end users do.

Anonymous, Open Source P2P with MUTE (O'ReillyNet)

Posted Aug 16, 2004 12:07 UTC (Mon) by arafel (subscriber, #18557) [Link]

I'm intrigued - on what basis did they sue him, exactly? Writing a program to catalogue the contents of shares isn't a violation of *anything*, as far as I know.

Anonymous, Open Source P2P with MUTE (O'ReillyNet)

Posted Aug 16, 2004 14:36 UTC (Mon) by msmelov (guest, #11243) [Link]

Do you really need to violate anything to be sued?
The point is that you can't afford to defend yourself, so you settle and
comply with their demands.

Anonymous, Open Source P2P with MUTE (O'ReillyNet)

Posted Aug 16, 2004 15:03 UTC (Mon) by arafel (subscriber, #18557) [Link]

If it's blatantly obvious that they don't have any basis to sue you on, how long would it take the case to get thrown out of court?

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