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UserLinux plans anounced
| From: | Bruce Perens <bruce-AT-perens.com> | |
| To: | discuss-AT-lists.userlinux.com | |
| Subject: | [Discuss] press conference | |
| Date: | Wed, 04 Aug 2004 05:16:30 -0700 |
I am having a press conference today and there will be announcements
regarding UserLinux. I am planning to announce:
1. We are planning a mass beta for i386-based systems September 1.
2. We will track the Debian release process, and that Debian currently
targets September 15.
3. We are seeking additional service vendors to establish our global
support network.
4. The big one: In addition to i386, we will add commercial support of
Debian Pure AMD64 with an i386 chroot for 32-bit compatibility.
We will have Pure AMD64 support even though this will probably not be an
officially-supported architecture of Debian for this release. Not all
service vendors will support it. I have been running this for months and it
is stable. Its main problems are that Linux Standard Base does not yet
address it and that Debian would like to transition to "multiarch" support
that is not ready for this release. Thus customers should expect a
larger-than-usual change next release. The subsequent release is not
expected to use a chroot to implement the 32-bit compatibility but will
provide it through the Debian "multiarch" facility. But the fact that there
will be a big change between releases is true for all Linux distributions
that will cover AMD64, and is a consequence that early adoptors bear. Our
release date for Pure AMD64 is not yet determined but is expected to be
later than our i386 release.
Thanks
Bruce
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UserLinux plans anounced
Posted Aug 4, 2004 17:03 UTC (Wed) by cpeterso (guest, #305) [Link]
I am pretty excited about UserLinux's prospects, especially as a focused, user-oriented version of Debian. I think Bruce has the user focus, experience, and community clout to (probably) pull this off. I was worried when UserLinux went quiet for so long. I hope some of UserLinux's influence flows upstream back to the Debian gearheads. ;-)
Go Debian!
Posted Aug 4, 2004 17:28 UTC (Wed) by stuart (subscriber, #623) [Link]
I'd really like to see Red Hat drop Fedora and instead use Debian as their base too. Likelihood of this happenning: zero.
Oh well.
Go Debian!
Posted Aug 4, 2004 23:58 UTC (Wed) by darthmdh (guest, #8032) [Link]
But then they wouldn't be compatible with the Redhat Linux Standard Base and we'd be back to square one in that regard.
the LSB should have been Debian based from the get-go instead of wasting all this time and effort on inferior proprietary solutions.
Go Debian!
Posted Aug 5, 2004 7:47 UTC (Thu) by micampe (guest, #4384) [Link]
I'd really like to see Red Hat drop Fedora and instead use Debian as their base too. Likelihood of this happenning: zero.Thank God.
Go Debian!
Posted Aug 5, 2004 14:58 UTC (Thu) by philips (guest, #937) [Link]
You need to use Debian to get its beaty.
RHL/SuSE/Mandrake they are all sort of brain-damaged with differentiation and branding. And it
really hurts and splits community. (Try to make an rpm which will work on all versions of all
forementioned distros - next impossible, even if no dependencies present)
Debian managed to stay sort of neutral with its dpkg & apt. When some-one say "it runs on
Debian stable" you can be absolutely assured that you will have no problems at all. Debian
managed to not to fall into "Not Invented Here" attitude - and actually sucked best from
development of all distros around.
Two words: Community Project.
UserLinux plans anounced
Posted Aug 4, 2004 21:19 UTC (Wed) by davidw (subscriber, #947) [Link]
The idea is that UL will indeed be as closely linked to Debian as possible.
In general I like the idea too. I have a few doubts as to what will be done about the release schedule if Debian's doesn't improve a bit, but I think Bruce is definitely someone who can deliver if he puts his mind to it.