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It would be nice if their email worked

Posted Jul 25, 2004 5:01 UTC (Sun) by Ross (subscriber, #4065)
Parent article: OLS: Enforcing the GPL

I tried to contact them twice and was never successful. Here's the
bounce from that last attempt.


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Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 22:05:31 +0200

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A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
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Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 15:05:20 -0500
From: Ross <***>
To: webmaster@gpl-violations.org
Subject: how do I submit a violation?

The website mentions three mailing lists but none seem to be the proper
place to report a violation. Is this only for Netfilter violations or
for other software too? Sorry to bother you...

-Ross


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It would be nice if their email worked

Posted Jul 25, 2004 5:48 UTC (Sun) by dlang (subscriber, #313) [Link]

you can only enforce the copyright and therefor the GPL on code that you have the copyright on.

As such the netrilter group can only enforce violations of the netfilter code (as was mentioned when he was asked about the fact that some of the code release isn't a full linux kernel, he can only go after the netfilter code, other copyright holders would have to go after the other code, but I would expect that aafter having lost on the netfilter code it would be much easier to get the other code as well)

It would be nice if their email worked

Posted Jul 25, 2004 6:21 UTC (Sun) by Ross (subscriber, #4065) [Link]

I'm aware of that. I thought they might offer resources to other people
wanting to enforce the GPL. But if not that's a rather sweeping domain
name for only Netfilter related inquiries.

It would be nice if their email worked

Posted Jul 25, 2004 10:42 UTC (Sun) by MathFox (subscriber, #6104) [Link]

On the FSF website you can find information about the GPL enforcement activities by Eben Moglen.
If you feel you should act upon infringement of your own copyrighted code, there is one advice I can give you: Hire a lawyer! First, the lawyer can evaluate with you whether your lawsuit stands a chance; secondly, he knows the correct route through the maze of laws and rules to get the best result for you.

It would be nice if their email worked

Posted Jul 25, 2004 13:03 UTC (Sun) by ncm (subscriber, #165) [Link]

dlang wrote, "you can only enforce the copyright and therefor the GPL on code that you have the copyright on."

While that is true in a strict sense, section N (N=3 IIRC) provides a little more leverage. Having violated your copyright, they have lost the right to distribute your code. To regain that right, they have to satisfy whatever conditions the judge agrees to let you enforce. One such condition may be that they release source to all the code linked with yours. Another might be that they pay for your lawyer, and other expenses. Another might be that they make a substantial donation to the FSF. Another might be that they pay extra damages to you for having made you bring the whole thing to court, instead of doing the right thing when it was brought to their attention. It would not be unreasonable to ask for all of those, and a public apology besides.

It would be nice if their email worked

Posted Jul 25, 2004 14:05 UTC (Sun) by laf0rge (subscriber, #6469) [Link]

I am terribly sorry, but there was some disagreement between the DNS records and the mailserver configuration :(

Email is working now... please resend.

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