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KDE 3.3 Beta 1 Experiences (OSNews.com)

OSNews shares one person's experience upgrading KDE 3.2.3 to KDE 3.3 Beta 1. "When I started KDE 3.3 Beta1, I was presented with KDE's Desktop Configuration. What I liked in this wizard was that Plastik is now presented as one of the style choices (which I think is the best among the styles that come with KDE). Nice. Unfortunately, it is not the default but it should be. I also noticed that the startup speed has improved. The "aKademy" splash screen is new and looks cool! Also, everything feels more snappier and quicker. Applications seem to launch faster. If you configure to preload an instance of Konqueror at the start up time; all subsequent launches of Konqueror are lighting fast." (Found on KDE.News)
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KDE 3.3 Beta 1 Experiences (OSNews.com)

Posted Jul 19, 2004 22:58 UTC (Mon) by rsidd (subscriber, #2582) [Link]

I'm using KDE 3.3-beta1 too and I'm impressed. I think konqueror is now the equal or superior of mozilla/firefox -- I haven't found a site it can't handle, while it handles some that mozilla can't at all, and formats others correctly that Mozilla slightly messes up. (The latter site has a different issue though, in that it takes a while to display on konq, while moz does it instantly; all other sites I've tried are lightning fast.)

KDE 3.3 Beta 1 Experiences (OSNews.com)

Posted Jul 20, 2004 2:55 UTC (Tue) by tjc (guest, #137) [Link]

If you have a moment, load this page and see how the new version of Konqueror does:

http://www.visi.com/~m16/W3C_DOM_conformance_test.html

KDE 3.3 Beta 1 Experiences (OSNews.com)

Posted Jul 20, 2004 8:40 UTC (Tue) by juanjux (guest, #11652) [Link]

-----------------------------------
Konqueror
-----------------------------------
Level 1 Core/HTML Interfaces PASS
Level 1 Core/XML Interfaces PASS
Level 2 Core Interfaces PASS
Level 2 HTML Interfaces PASS
Level 2 XML Interfaces PASS
Abstract View Interface FAIL
Generic Style Sheet Traversal FAIL
CSS Styles [Views] FAIL
CSS2 Properties Interface [CSS] FAIL
Event Handling Infrastructure PASS
User Interface Events [Events, Views] PASS
Mouse Events [UIEvents] PASS
HTML Events [Events] PASS
Document Mutation Events [Events] PASS
Document Range Interfaces FAIL
Document Traversal Interfaces FAIL

Your browser passed 10 of 16 tests.

-------------------------------------
Mozilla:
-------------------------------------
Level 1 Core/HTML Interfaces PASS
Level 1 Core/XML Interfaces PASS
Level 2 Core Interfaces PASS
Level 2 HTML Interfaces PASS
Level 2 XML Interfaces PASS
Abstract View Interface PASS
Generic Style Sheet Traversal PASS
CSS Styles [Views] PASS
CSS2 Properties Interface [CSS] PASS
Event Handling Infrastructure PASS
User Interface Events [Events, Views] FAIL
Mouse Events [UIEvents] PASS
HTML Events [Events] PASS
Document Mutation Events [Events] FAIL
Document Range Interfaces PASS
Document Traversal Interfaces FAIL

Your browser passed 13 of 16 tests.
----------------------------------------

Anyway what I really miss in Konqueror are the equivalent to the
Mozilla/Firefox extensions "Addblock" and "Flash click to play" which
make the browsing experience MUCHO better.

KDE 3.3 Beta 1 Experiences (OSNews.com)

Posted Jul 20, 2004 8:52 UTC (Tue) by tjn (guest, #4710) [Link]

And internet explorer:
Level 1 Core/HTML Interfaces PASS
Level 1 Core/XML Interfaces FAIL
Level 2 Core Interfaces FAIL
Level 2 HTML Interfaces FAIL
Level 2 XML Interfaces FAIL
Abstract View Interface FAIL
Generic Style Sheet Traversal FAIL
CSS Styles [Views] FAIL
CSS2 Properties Interface [CSS] FAIL
Event Handling Infrastructure FAIL
User Interface Events [Events, Views] FAIL
Mouse Events [UIEvents] FAIL
HTML Events [Events] FAIL
Document Mutation Events [Events] FAIL
Document Range Interfaces FAIL
Document Traversal Interfaces FAIL

Your browser passed 1 of 16 tests.

KDE 3.3 Beta 1 Experiences (OSNews.com)

Posted Jul 20, 2004 14:56 UTC (Tue) by morhippo (subscriber, #334) [Link]

And opera-7.50!
Your browser passed 6 of 16 tests.

W3C DOM Conformance Test
Level 1 Core/HTML Interfaces PASS
Level 1 Core/XML Interfaces FAIL
Level 2 Core Interfaces FAIL
Level 2 HTML Interfaces FAIL
Level 2 XML Interfaces FAIL
Abstract View Interface FAIL
Generic Style Sheet Traversal FAIL
CSS Styles [Views] FAIL
CSS2 Properties Interface [CSS] FAIL
Event Handling Infrastructure PASS
User Interface Events [Events, Views] PASS
Mouse Events [UIEvents] PASS
HTML Events [Events] PASS
Document Mutation Events [Events] PASS
Document Range Interfaces FAIL
Document Traversal Interfaces FAIL

KDE 3.3 Beta 1 Experiences (OSNews.com)

Posted Jul 20, 2004 15:19 UTC (Tue) by southey (subscriber, #9466) [Link]

Hmmm, galeon 1.2.8 passes the same as mozilla reported above as does Firefox 0.8. However, Konqueror 3.1.1 only passed the first two. Konqueror 3.2.1 passes the same 10 as reported above.

KDE 3.3 Beta 1 Experiences (OSNews.com)

Posted Jul 20, 2004 16:13 UTC (Tue) by khim (subscriber, #9252) [Link]

It does not mean much: this page only asks browser if it supports feature or not. That's all. Browser can support everything and not pass any tests and it can omit support of everything and pass 16 tests out of 16.

It's situation with MS IE: it truly does not support most specifications - it does support early drafts (Microsoft-sponsored) and Microsoft does not bother with fixes since "MS IE is supported by all web-designers anyway". Does show you how comitted is Microsoft to "standards compliance", ne?

KDE 3.3 Beta 1 Experiences (OSNews.com)

Posted Jul 20, 2004 21:20 UTC (Tue) by tjc (guest, #137) [Link]

It does not mean much: this page only asks browser if it supports feature or not. That's all.

It may not be much, but its the only way I know to determine the DOM support of a browser. The alternatives are: 1) write for a single browser and leave everyone else staring at a blank page, and screenful of garbage, or some other sort of undefined behavior, or 2) write for the lowest common level of support (the defacto "level 0" DOM) and let everyone suffer the same impoverished experience that IE users take for granted.

Mozilla's DOM support is good enough to create web apps that are quite a bit better than most people have experienced, without even getting into XUL. MSFT is hoping that not many people figure this out until they come out with their next lockout strategy.

It looks like Konqueror is catching up. Good for them. Hopefully Apple Safari users will soon enjoy this same improved level of DOM support.

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