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Fedora Core 2: Making it work (linux.com)

This linux.com author examines Fedora Core 2 on his production system. "Getting FC2 to a state of desktop readiness is a task that requires a medium amount of skill and will probably take close to a full day for the first workstation (assuming that you have a high-speed Internet connection). Subsequent installs should go more quickly; indeed, I intend for my students to get most of it done during their first three-hour class."
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Fedora Core 2: Making it work (linux.com)

Posted Jul 6, 2004 18:40 UTC (Tue) by ph-0101 (guest, #22167) [Link]

Does the author reside in the United States? If so, that's a great way to ignore the laws like they don't exist. Sure, let's all install the mp3 plugin from livna.org. That should make the problem go away.

...the mp3 problem needs a better solution, and so does the dvd one. The lack of legitimate mp3 and dvd support within the United States is completely unacceptable for an OS that aims to become mainstream.

Then again, I am a shameless hypocrite...

Btw when does the patent in question expire? I'm curious.


Fedora Core 2: Making it work (linux.com)

Posted Jul 6, 2004 20:21 UTC (Tue) by dang (subscriber, #310) [Link]

Barriers created by proprietary codecs are a fault of the OS? Odd. I'd agree to the claim that the mp3 and dvd licenses are completely unacceptable to Linux users, but that is a very different claim.

Fedora Core 2: Making it work (linux.com)

Posted Jul 6, 2004 20:35 UTC (Tue) by spot (subscriber, #15640) [Link]

There are at least 18 US patents related to MP3, and one for Mp3Pro.

The Thomson website lists the following US patents:

Digital coding process:
5,924,060 : Granted 13-Jul-99 : Expires 13-Jul-2016

Digital adaptive transformation coding method:
5,742,735 : Granted 21-Apr-98 : Expires 21-Apr-2015

Process for the detecting of errors in the transmission of frequency-coded digital signals:
5,455,833 : Granted 03-Oct-95 : Expires 03-Oct-2012

Digital encoding process:
5,579,430 : Granted 26-Nov-96 : Expires 26-Nov-2013

Process for reducing frequency interlacing during acoustic or optical signal transmission and/or recording:
5,559,834 : Granted 24-Sep-96 : Expires 24-Sep-2013

Method for reducing data in the transmission and/or storage of digital signals of several dependent channels:
5,812,672 : Granted 22-Sep-98 : Expires 22-Sep-2015

Process for reducing data in the transmission and/or storage of digital signals of several interdependent channels:
5,703,999 : Granted 30-Dec-97 : Expires 30-Dec-2014

Process for transmitting and/or storing digital signals of multiple channels:
5,706,309 : Granted 06-Jan-98 : Expires 06-Jan-2015

Determination of coding type:
5,736,943 : Granted 07-Apr-98 : Expires 07-Apr-2015

Joint stereo coding:
5,701,346 : Granted 23-Dec-97 : Expires 23-Dec-2014

Method of transmitting an audio signal using two different masking thresholds:
4,942,607 : Granted 17-Jul-90 : Expires 17-Jul-2007

Method for transmitting an audio signal using adaptive window functions:
5,214,742 : Granted 25-May-93 : Expires 25-May-2010

Method for transmitting a signal using analysis and synthesis window functions:
5,227,990 : Granted 13-Jul-93 : Expires 13-Jul-2010

Method for transmitting a TDAC coded audio signal:
5,384,811 : Granted 24-Jan-95 : Expires 24-Jan-2012

Method for transmitting a signal using adaptive window functions:
5,321,729 : Granted 14-Jul-94 : Expires 14-Jul-2011

Channel extension digital audio:
4,821,260 : Granted 11-Apr-89 : Expires 11-Apr-2006

Method for encoding a digitized audio signal using combinations of different threshold models:
6,009,399 : Granted 28-Dec-99 : Expires 28-Dec-2016

System for digital multiband filtering:
4,691,292 : Granted 01-Sep-87 : Expires 01-Sep-2004

Process of low sampling rate digital encoding of audio signals:
6,185,539 : Granted 06-Feb-01 : Expires 19-Feb-2017

*****
This assumes I did the math right and that the federal patent law doesn't change between now and February 19, 2017 with regards to patent lifespans.

Useful URLs:
http://mp3licensing.com/patents/index.html
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=2434

And of course, IANAL.

Offshore Filters

Posted Jul 6, 2004 21:56 UTC (Tue) by ccyoung (subscriber, #16340) [Link]

maybe we need an offshore site that will take these proprietary formats and convert them into open standards.

which brings to mind why is a linux person using mp3 when she has far better options at her disposal.

Offshore Filters

Posted Jul 7, 2004 1:38 UTC (Wed) by djabsolut (guest, #12799) [Link]

because he/she has portable mp3 players, manufacturers of which never heard of alternate formats (besides wma).

Offshore Filters

Posted Jul 7, 2004 7:22 UTC (Wed) by tomsi (subscriber, #2306) [Link]

This is exactly the reason I decided to go for an iRiver player.

iRiver is one of the companies that does support Ogg Vorbis.

And as I am ripping my own CD's, I don't have to worry about any other formats.

Offshore Filters

Posted Jul 12, 2004 10:07 UTC (Mon) by piman (subscriber, #8957) [Link]

Unless, of course, you want reasonably-sized Ogg files rather than 128kbps ones. Or you want to use the player with USB mass storage (aka "sane") firmware rather than their proprietary interface.

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