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Looking for Indemnification While Linux Sales Double (O'ReillyNet)
Tom Adelstein
examines issues related to Linux use in the enterprise while copyright
infringement claims exist, on O'ReillyNet. "Realists consider Linux
adoption remarkable. The word on the street and in the foxholes of the IT
community has created a swell of adoption from small businesses to the
entire Fortune 500. The marketing of Linux by HP, IBM, Sun, Dell, Oracle,
and Novell demonstrates the commitment of industry to Linux. With all the
agreement in the market, most observers do not give SCO much of a chance of
winning its cases."
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Looking for Indemnification While Linux Sales Double (O'ReillyNet) Posted Jun 29, 2004 21:31 UTC (Tue) by allesfresser (subscriber, #216) [Link] This sounds awful fuddish to me... little tidbits thrown here and there about Linux adoption skyrocketing, but most of the article is scary noises about how many millions it's going to cost to keep from getting hacked to death by SCO's lawyers. Note the first sentence: "Little doubt exists; a legal cloud hangs over Linux from infringement claims of the SCO Group, Inc." Hmm... nice to state your thesis right up front, even though many people think the hanging cloud exists mostly in Darl's head.
Looking for Indemnification While Linux Sales Double (O'ReillyNet) Posted Jun 30, 2004 10:27 UTC (Wed) by Duncan (guest, #6647) [Link] Not so FUDdish to me. More like the way biz people (as opposed to techpeople) tend to think. It's also an example of the same phenom that caused SCO stock to stay so high for so long, when there were absolutely zero technicals to keep it there, only the fact that enough biz folks /thought/ it should be there that it stayed there. A biz owner or C?O should be concerned about the possibility of a SCO suit. Despite the likelihood that SCO will ultimately lose, in the mean time it can dramatically affect sales and relationships with other peers, as well as the stock price or equity valuation if private for lines of credit and the like. It's a real concern, and that's what the article reflected. OTOH, the article ALSO reflected the fact that what would /ordinarily/ be something of a disaster, now seems to be treated as more business as usual, nothing serious at all. The author didn't opin much on this, except to reflect on how unusual it was, and that's appropriate for the type of article it was. However, what it means for the biz owner/c?o investigating Linux is that the ordinary aversion to litigation barely applies at all in this case -- the all-critical relationship to peers and partners isn't likely to be affected much if at all, as it's simply being treated as an ordinary fact of business, nothing unusual or to be worried about. It /could/ affect stock price or credit worthiness to some greater extent, but even that seems to be less of an issue every day, as the markets finally absorb what the technicians have been saying for over a year, now. All that said, a prudent business person will have contemplated the options and will understand not only the potential risk (or lack thereof), but will have coverage and an action plan in place, should the bad actually come to pass. This article simply provided a /very/ basic introduction to the types of things such a biz person should be considering. It would be in /none/ of our best interests if such a biz person, /not/ being informed, rolled over to SCO like a submissive puppy, and one aware of the issues BEFORE they get that demand letter is far LESS likely to do so. IOW, the article was a fairly balance if /very/ brief and slightly misinformed (re OSRM, see the other thread) treatment, from a biz person perspective, not the technician's perspective most of us here on LWN are likely to have. That's my opinion, anyway. Duncan
Looking for Indemnification While Linux Sales Double (O'ReillyNet) Posted Jun 30, 2004 16:29 UTC (Wed) by iabervon (subscriber, #722) [Link] Reading the article, it seems clear to me that the "legal" risk is litigation, not damages. Nobody believes that SCO could possibly win anything, but there's the risk that users will have to respond to a lawsuit. It sounds like "there's a psychopath out there targetting Linux users; here's what you should do to protect yourself" rather than saying that there's anything actually wrong with using Linux.The thing I find strange about the article is that it implies that Linux is low-cost. While there are low-cost and no-cost Linux solutions, the server space where the growth is is largely high-end servers, where the purchase prices are upwards of $50K and the operating system is not a separate item. You can easily spend $100K on a system which wouldn't run without Linux. Obviously, you want protection for the system as a whole, and that protection has to cover the operating system.
Not very good Posted Jun 29, 2004 23:06 UTC (Tue) by emk (subscriber, #1128) [Link] The author has a poor grasp of OSRM's products, and the issues involved in the SCO case. There's also a pretty unrealistic view of the indemnification actually provided by commercial vendors, which is usually very minimalistic when present at all.Odd.
Indemnification policy review Posted Jun 30, 2004 10:03 UTC (Wed) by Duncan (guest, #6647) [Link] I'd agree w/ your evaluation of the OSRM products, but not so much withthe vendor stuff. Granted, the vendor stuff does tend to be rather limited, but the article /does/ tend to point that out, as well. The exception might be Novell, which the author seems quite favorable toward, but which I've seen little coverage of their indemnification policy, other than this. See my (soon) reply to the other post for additional thoughts. Duncan
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