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Posted May 31, 2004 18:05 UTC (Mon) by leandro (subscriber, #1460)
Parent article: HP expands open-source support (News.com)

Will someone please shot MySQL to stop it gaining "credibility" against decent SQL DBMSs?


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HP expands open-source support (News.com)

Posted May 31, 2004 19:41 UTC (Mon) by einstein (subscriber, #2052) [Link]

Nobody's twisting your arm - if you'd like to use some other database, you're free to do so - but some of us find mysql to be a very nice tool which is just the thing for certain jobs.

HP expands open-source support (News.com)

Posted Jun 1, 2004 12:39 UTC (Tue) by leandro (subscriber, #1460) [Link]

> Nobody's twisting your arm

No, it is just that DBs are my bread-and-butter and substandard products keep getting in the way.

HP expands open-source support (News.com)

Posted May 31, 2004 19:41 UTC (Mon) by havoc (guest, #2261) [Link]

please explain what makes MySQL not "decent."

thanks.

HP expands open-source support (News.com)

Posted Jun 1, 2004 12:42 UTC (Tue) by leandro (subscriber, #1460) [Link]

> please explain what makes MySQL not "decent."

Not SQL compliant.

Too complex with different table types.

Not performing with concurrency.

Developers who don't understand data.

Too fragile.

HP expands open-source support (News.com)

Posted May 31, 2004 23:20 UTC (Mon) by lakeland (subscriber, #1157) [Link]

mysql wasn't decent when I compared it to postgres. However, that was in
1999; unless you've got some specific criticism from a feature you
actually use, perhaps you need to reevaluate it too? As I understand it,
the only thing it is really missing now is decent support for recovery
after catastrophic failure (e.g. hardware failure).



HP expands open-source support (News.com)

Posted Jun 1, 2004 13:48 UTC (Tue) by leandro (subscriber, #1460) [Link]

> mysql wasn't decent when I compared it to postgres. However, that was in 1999

That is still so. MySQL still depends on the aberration of table types, it still encourages coding in the application as opposed to declarations in the DBMS, it is still fragile, it still doesn't scale, it still has too many SQL idiosyncrasies.

HP expands open-source support (News.com)

Posted Jun 1, 2004 0:08 UTC (Tue) by clugstj (subscriber, #4020) [Link]

Don't feed the trolls.

Re: don't feed the trolls

Posted Jun 1, 2004 17:59 UTC (Tue) by JohnBell (guest, #12625) [Link]

Even when they have some valid points?

HP expands open-source support (News.com)

Posted Jun 2, 2004 2:24 UTC (Wed) by marduk (subscriber, #3831) [Link]

"Will someone please shot MySQL to stop it gaining "credibility" against decent SQL DBMSs?"
This sounds like the same thing people were saying about Linux a few years ago.

HP expands open-source support (News.com)

Posted Jun 16, 2004 1:56 UTC (Wed) by leandro (subscriber, #1460) [Link]

> This sounds like the same thing people were saying about Linux a few years ago.

There is quite a difference.

GNU/Linux many not be the Hurd or OS/400 or a Lisp system – it is not based on a microkernel with multiple servers, it stores files in an hierarchical filesystem instead of a relational database, it is based on C instead of a functional language – but it is quite a decent design.

OTOH MySQL is tragical. There are much better alternatives, including the free ones.

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