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An open letter from Alan CoxAn open letter from Alan CoxPosted May 31, 2004 12:54 UTC (Mon) by emlix (guest, #14784)Parent article: An open letter from Alan Cox
Alan please just shut up. If you wan't to turn away totalitarian
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An open letter from Alan Cox Posted May 31, 2004 13:03 UTC (Mon) by sir_clive (guest, #21963) [Link] Pray tell, what *would* be a right way? Revolution? :-)
An open letter from Alan Cox Posted May 31, 2004 13:17 UTC (Mon) by man_ls (subscriber, #15091) [Link] Revolutions seldom work: most often you exchange one tyrant for another. Civil disobedience would be more like it; it worked for Gandhi. I don't know what it might mean in this circumstance, though. Massive public violation of software patents? :P
An open letter from Alan Cox Posted May 31, 2004 17:01 UTC (Mon) by mmarq (guest, #2332) [Link] " Massive public violation of software patents? "Isn't only in Linux/FOSS, but there are others more serious, i belive, proprietary applications and projects that have software patents inside, some of them well known ones, and there aren't any licences that agree to that use, besides the patent owners complaisence. IMHO, two ways exist to mitigate the problem: 1) The very hard one of stoping software patents, wich could only happen in europe (EU) now (JAPAN have them),... 2) Have a "ENDLESS" Writen Public License to all those patents that there are in Open Code, and that could be adden in context of a Open Standards with the full power of enforceability,... more or less like the IETF and WWW Consorcium but for Open Patents and with full power for enforceability and negociations,... tough job, but perhaps less hard than above, because many Big Corporations, owners of the majority of patents, are now participating, contributing and "taking advantage" of the quality that the Open-Source method has to offer against proprietary bullies... But tomorrow, if IBM for example, gets to be in a financial down, much certainly to happen because business proceed by cicles, it could decide, on a new Darl style management, to collect money from all patents that seem ok now in open source... much, much worst than SCO, because instead of dubious copyrights "we'll" have to deal with registered patents... 3) a full blown "underground" movement of civil desobidience for the continuing of ideas and work sharing... "I belive" no one really wants to "talk about" about an alternetive like this one (obvious!) because it will be almost inevitable!!..., if a patent war breaks loose, and a lot of Open Source projects and independent developers are presecuted and cuted off from normal distribution... Microsoft would not care about a underground movement, not only because their own home and SOHO market is already a huge "UNDERGROUND" for their own Windows and Office software products piracy(the base of their monopoly)... but because it will prevent a lot of distribution of Open Source to entreprises, where the real money is!!...
An open letter from Alan Cox Posted May 31, 2004 13:11 UTC (Mon) by dcoutts (guest, #5387) [Link] Huh?So you suggest we don't bother to vote and just sit there and complain that no-one listens to us? The EU parlament is a democratic institution, so voting does make a difference. It's true, that the parlament has to share power with the commission which is not directly elected but the parlament still has a significant role in developing and passing EU directives.
An open letter from Alan Cox Posted May 31, 2004 15:13 UTC (Mon) by cdyson37 (guest, #12102) [Link] ...the parlament still has a significant role in developing and passing EU directives.What, you mean a bunch of people signing a book to get expenses and walking out of the building?
An open letter from Alan Cox Posted May 31, 2004 21:44 UTC (Mon) by steven97 (guest, #2702) [Link] <soapbox>There is very little democratic about the European Parliament. You can vote for your representatives, who then go sit there for five years with their hands tied because they have no rights whatsoever (not even the right to initiative). And when they finally try to do something, like blocking a very broken financial plan or modifying the patents plan, the European Committee or the Council of Ministers just ignore them or accept the stalemate so they can blame the parliament. I am not going to vote, a European Union like we have now is a farce. </soapbox>
An open letter from Alan Cox Posted Jun 1, 2004 10:59 UTC (Tue) by PhilHannent (guest, #1241) [Link] That is all the more reason to vote.If you don't like the political system then vote to change it voting for the independance party would help you get what you are looking for. Not voting will allow the stalemate to continue. If you are opposed to something then vote against it. People that are given a voice (a little one at that) and choose not to use it because they dont agree with the current system is crazy.
An open letter from Alan Cox Posted Jun 2, 2004 16:18 UTC (Wed) by Adamskie (guest, #22004) [Link] Not one side is any better then the other.They both sux. When it comes to human rights.. they know nothing! Though they know how to make money for... THEMSELFS. They do have a hard job... But they still think of nothing but them selfs. Though i guess 90% of man think that way...
But what have you got to lose ? Posted Jun 2, 2004 7:15 UTC (Wed) by guybar (guest, #798) [Link] IIUC, your argument is: the EP is powerless, so there's no reason to vote. However, you ignore the probability that the EP will gain some political clout in the future.
mmm troll Posted May 31, 2004 13:16 UTC (Mon) by stuart (subscriber, #623) [Link] Move on, nothing to see here folks.
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