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Spatial Is Not EasierSpatial Is Not EasierPosted May 19, 2004 15:32 UTC (Wed) by Alan_Hicks (subscriber, #20469)In reply to: Spatial Is Not Easier by LogicG8 Parent article: The Spatial Way
Bingo. You hit the nail on the head. Computers are not the real world. File systems are not a collection of real files. These are abstractions. We create abstractions because they are easier for us to deal with than the real things they represent. Layers of abstraction are created to make things easier, and browser based navigation is a higher layer of abstraction than spatial. Sometimes lower layers are preferred. I still do most of my work on the commandline, but my e-mail is read in a GUI client. I browse the web primarily with a GUI browser. I navigate my filesystem with a browser-like navigator. I simply think the GNOME developers have gotten extremely arrogant. They display a "we know what's best for you" attitude that just sticks in my craw. I'm sorry, but I won't be using GNOME 2.6. The one and only feature they've added which I like, is the new open/save dialogue window. This should be easily worked in xfce, my current linux desktop of choice.
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Arrogant GNOME developers? Posted May 19, 2004 16:19 UTC (Wed) by coulamac (subscriber, #21690) [Link] The GNOME developers made a design decision to make spatial nautilus the default mode. Why does that make them arrogant? Browser Nautilus is still readily available by many different means of access-- it's one right-click away, for instance. They left you the choice to browse by another means.The developers of any desktop must make design decisions at some point or another. Sometimes, developers are willing to go against the usual way of doing things and try another way, which they feel has usability advantages. Maybe they're right about the usability advantages. Maybe they're wrong. You, however, are stomping on them for trying to do something out of the ordinary by calling them "arrogant." God forbid anyone try to move out of the Windows browser paradigm for a minute! The bottom line is that the developers who write the code and maintain the code get to make the design decisions. That is the way that all freesoftware works. The Nautilus developers made a daring (maybe inspired, maybe ill-conceived) change to spatial file browsing as the default. Time will tell whether they are right or wrong. You, however, are the one being arrogant to say that your dislike of the *default* mode of browsing reflects the arrogance of the developers who take the time and energy to write and maintain the code.
Arrogant GNOME developers? Posted May 19, 2004 22:01 UTC (Wed) by illtyd (guest, #2124) [Link] The GNOME developers made a design decision to make spatial nautilus the default mode. Why does that make them arrogant? Because they have removed currently existing methods for changing defaults. This is even more applicable to the WM discussions above, but note this from the page referred to in the article It's also interesting to note that newer releases of Nautilus will have this available as an option in the Preferences (Edit -> Preferences) dialog - but currently, your only way is to make an edit within GConf itself. I haven't noticed any refutation of the comment earlier that suggested this option was going back in so quickly because of all the comments.
Arrogant GNOME developers? Posted May 19, 2004 23:14 UTC (Wed) by stephenjudd (guest, #3227) [Link] If a change is going in quickly because of lots of comments, that seems like responsiveness and humility to me.
Arrogant GNOME developers? Posted May 20, 2004 9:34 UTC (Thu) by ekj (subscriber, #1524) [Link] If people implement a change, even after *knowing* that a large part of the users are going to hate the change, would it be too much to ask to leave a button to change it back to the old default somewhere in the preferences-gui ?
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