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Red Hat as the "next Redmond"

Red Hat as the "next Redmond"

Posted Aug 27, 2002 17:24 UTC (Tue) by rdieter (subscriber, #3460)
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Red Hat has pushed its users toward bleeding-edge versions of gcc while providing (and requiring) ancient versions of Python.
Incorrect, about python anyway. RedHat 7(.3) includes both python(1) and python2.


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Red Hat as the "next Redmond"

Posted Aug 27, 2002 19:23 UTC (Tue) by jake (editor, #205) [Link]

Well, except that you can't install python2 as python or all the redhat
config programs break in heinous ways ... they require 1.5.2 for their
python code (and expect 'python' to be 1.5.2) ...

jake

Red Hat as the "next Redmond"

Posted Aug 29, 2002 15:57 UTC (Thu) by iabervon (subscriber, #722) [Link]

If you're using python 2 features in your scripts, you should probably invoke it with #!python2 anyway, so that it fails in a more obvious way for people who don't have 2.x

Red Hat as the "next Redmond"

Posted Aug 27, 2002 19:23 UTC (Tue) by tjc (guest, #137) [Link]

Red Hat has pushed its users toward bleeding-edge versions of gcc while providing (and requiring) ancient versions of Python.

I'd like to comment further on the Python situation. The reason that Red Hat has used 1.5.2 for the longest time now is that some of the system tools that they ship as part of the 7.x series use Python, and Red Hat has a policy of not breaking compatibility within a major number series. Seeing that they're targeting the "enterprise" market they don't want to do this too often. So Python has been lagging far behind while waiting for gcc 3.2 to be released so that Red Hat can ship a new major number series. It was just bad luck that Python 2 wasn't ready for Red Hat 7.0.

Red Hat as the "next Redmond"

Posted Aug 28, 2002 11:43 UTC (Wed) by MGPoolman (guest, #3469) [Link]

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Incorrect, about python anyway. RedHat 7(.3) includes both python(1) and python2.


Well yes, but a lot of rh sysadmin tools need python1.5.2, and if you use python2.x in parallel you end up having to solve all kinds of interesting problems you'd never thought of before. Red Hat really should get their act together and update said tools.

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