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Microsoft, a sponsor for the presidency of the EU?Microsoft, a sponsor for the presidency of the EU?Posted May 14, 2004 23:02 UTC (Fri) by Mike7 (guest, #17587)Parent article: Microsoft, a sponsor for the presidency of the EU?
Europe is not the US, it is not that common in our system that politicians
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Microsoft, a sponsor for the presidency of the EU? Posted May 15, 2004 6:44 UTC (Sat) by beejaybee (guest, #1581) [Link] The problem here is that the EU is NOT a democracy. The EU Parliament is subservient to the wholly unelected Commission; also note that the EU accounts have not been approved by the auditors for more than a decade.Unfortunately the situation we have is much worse than that in the USA, where there is at least a veneer of public accountability. EU residents, please remember this when engaging in the "democratic" process of electing new MEPs next month.
Microsoft, a sponsor for the presidency of the EU? Posted May 15, 2004 7:30 UTC (Sat) by dmantione (guest, #4640) [Link] The members of the commision are subject to democratic control of thenational parliaments. However, no national parliament seems interrested in calling back his commisioner. This might have something to do with that all opposition to the proposal has been targeted until now at the EU, not at the national goverments/parliaments.
Microsoft, a sponsor for the presidency of the EU? Posted May 17, 2004 10:46 UTC (Mon) by mk270 (guest, #4485) [Link] No, the members of the Commission are NOT subject to the democratic control of the national parliaments in any way shape or form.You may be confusing the Commission with the Council, which comprises representatives of member state governments (and not of member state parliaments). Note that any chain of democratic accountability tying the Council back to the electorate is necessarily a highly indirect one.
Microsoft, a sponsor for the presidency of the EU? Posted May 15, 2004 9:08 UTC (Sat) by NAR (subscriber, #1313) [Link] Europe is not the US, it is not that common in our system that politicians get "bought" by corporations. It sometimes happens of course, but not like in the US, where it seems to be pretty common.The you live in a different Europe than I. I can remember that during the debate on the telecommunication law, MPs from all parties (goverment and opposition too) submitted the same modification proposals - which were actually written by various telecommunication companies...
Microsoft, a sponsor for the presidency of the EU? Posted May 16, 2004 20:35 UTC (Sun) by hppnq (subscriber, #14462) [Link] Right on. This is *not* the time to be naive.
Microsoft, a sponsor for the presidency of the EU? Posted May 15, 2004 23:06 UTC (Sat) by gvy (guest, #11981) [Link] > it is not that common in our system that politicians get "bought"Dream on. :(
Microsoft, a sponsor for the presidency of the EU? Posted May 15, 2004 23:44 UTC (Sat) by MarshallTown (guest, #21607) [Link] >> Europe is not the US, it is not that common in our system that politiciansget "bought" by corporations. It sometimes happens of course, but not like in the US, where it seems to be pretty common. << Perhaps you will tell us about the next time you get to vote for the EU presidency? US politicians try to HIDE their corruption since it can and some times does land them in the slammer.
Chicago standards Posted May 16, 2004 3:37 UTC (Sun) by rickfdd (guest, #4519) [Link] Here in Chicago we lock up (not just convict) on average one alderman per year.
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