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82% of email is spam

82% of email is spam

Posted May 7, 2004 21:21 UTC (Fri) by rgoates (subscriber, #3280)
Parent article: 82% of email is spam

My 2 bits. Most of the spam I get is very repetitious in form, disregarding the list of bogus words used to bypass filters. I suspect a little human intervention added to filters can get rid of most spam, and doing it at the ISP level can reduce the impact on the net. Here's how it might work:

1) I get spam in my mailbox.
2) I forward the spam to a "spam alert" service that verifies it as spam and then extracts the meat from the spam (the human intervention part), then feeds the meat to a pattern builder.
3) The pattern is forwarded to all ISPs to be used in their spam filters. The filter would reject any email that contained text that fit the pattern within some reasonably high confidence level. The rejected email would be returned to the sender, hopefully by the sender's own ISP. Rejecting spam at the network edge would be a huge win.
4) In the case of a false positive, the sender would have to sufficiently restate the email's text. This could be a pain, but I doubt it would happen all that often, percentage-wise.
5) The spammer is also forced to sufficiently restate his spam.

So what do we gain? The spammer has to work a lot harder (harder than adding some bogus word strings, anyway). With adequate speed of response from spam recipients, many of the spammer's targets would never see his spam. And the pattern building is largely centralized and so can be more easily improved as we become more clever. Additionally, catching spam at the network edge allows easier identification of the spam source.

The monetary cost is primarily in the "spam alert" service. I suspect that cost will be very low compared to the size of the spam problem. The social cost (or effort) will include getting most of the ISPs to use the pattern filtering, but I suspect seeing success at a few ISPs will provide a lot of momentum. I for one am certainly willing to badger my ISP to use it.

There will be no silver bullet. As we all know, there are always antisocials with too much time and misdirected energy. The best we can do is to keep far enough ahead of them to keep their damage to a tolerable level. I think that will be good enough, if we can do it.


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82% of email is spam

Posted May 8, 2004 17:13 UTC (Sat) by giraffedata (subscriber, #1954) [Link]

It seems to me that that doesn't have to be done with a complex inter-ISP system. It can be done within each individual ISP (and I thought they were already doing it). I believe the vast majority of the world's email accounts are within giant ISPs. If we can filter spam from giant ISP users, the spammers will give up.

So why isn't it working? Is it technologically infeasible? Are big ISP customers not availing themselves of the filtering?

82% of email is spam

Posted May 15, 2004 17:00 UTC (Sat) by bronson (subscriber, #4806) [Link]

Big ISPs never look at the content of what they are transmitting, lest they lose their common carrier status. Also, the tinfoil hat crowd claims that the big ISPs make good money on spam so it's not in their best interest to stop it.

spam filtering by ISPs

Posted May 15, 2004 17:19 UTC (Sat) by giraffedata (subscriber, #1954) [Link]

We may be using different definitions of ISPs; I believe this thread is about providers of email mailboxes. AOL, Yahoo, Hotmail, Earthlink, ...

I know these guys filter spam based on content. I see it in my own Yahoo mail account, and Earthlink advertises it. So why is spam still effective? Are they not filtering enough? Are users opting out?

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