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Red Hat Desktop strategy: Semantics have been part of the messaging problem (NewsForge)
NewsForge has an
article by Jeremy Hogan, Red Hat's Community Relations Manager, about
the company's desktop strategy. "And here we are. We've just
launched the first Red Hat product with "desktop" in its name (albeit with
the silent "corporate" in front of it). This move is alleged to be in
response to Sun's Java Desktop System. In actuality, it is in line with our
market's demand, and the strategy we articulate in our Open Source
Architecture. It is also just the first phase, because we aren't ready to
give (or exceed) the single system consumer desktop experience currently
available."
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Red Hat Desktop strategy: Semantics have been part of the messaging problem(NewsForge) Posted May 7, 2004 7:49 UTC (Fri) by duck (subscriber, #4444) [Link] So we were just confused by semantics, and after reading this article weare, uh, even more confused about where RedHat is going... Ok, he said they have to go where the money is. Not a surprise from a company (if they want to survive ;-)), but did he really tell us where RedHat expects to find the money? I noticed that I start to ignore any statement from RedHat, since it might not be a valid statement for long. Cheers Peter
Red Hat Desktop strategy: Semantics have been part of the messaging problem(NewsForge) Posted May 7, 2004 17:32 UTC (Fri) by iabervon (subscriber, #722) [Link] The paragraph you're referring to says "Unix-to-Linux migrations". They're trying to keep people leaving commercial Unix from getting hooked on Windows. This seems to fit my impression of everything they've done in the corporate market. They used to do things for hobbyists, but they decided that hobbyists were better off supporting each other, because bleeding-edge users conflicted with retailers over how long a box should remain on the shelf.It sounds like they want to get corporate desktop customers, because their needs are relatively well-posed and common, and they can be met. The home desktop is a support nightmare, and they don't want to get into it; even Microsoft can't keep home users happy, and Red Hat has orders of magnitude less support staff. And they want to keep their good name by having only happy customers.
Red Hat Desktop strategy: Semantics have been part of the messaging problem (NewsForge) Posted May 7, 2004 9:47 UTC (Fri) by russell (subscriber, #10458) [Link] Makes sense to me. It's a bit like the unix approach. Don't build the swiss army knives of desktop distributions. Instead build smaller independant parts that connect together to give something bigger.It is better to excel in one area and leverage from there to the next step, than it is to be average in all areas.
Red Hat Desktop strategy: Semantics have been part of the messaging problem (NewsForge) Posted May 7, 2004 10:21 UTC (Fri) by cdamian (subscriber, #1271) [Link] Sounds like good business sense to me, Red Hat only has products in those markets that work (in cronological order):- hobby systems (Red Hat Linux 1-9, now discontinued) and maybe in the future, once they descide it makes money: - media server its just a pity they gave up on the original Red Hat Linux, it was a nice system and an easy and stable entry point for hoppy developers, Linux beginners and even small companies. I think there still might be a market for this, but then I don't have a succesful Linux business like they do. Christof
Red Hat Desktop strategy: Semantics have been part of the messaging problem Posted May 7, 2004 12:41 UTC (Fri) by tomsi (subscriber, #2306) [Link] I have been playing with Fedora Core 1 for some time now and that seems to me to be a capable system for hobby systems.What the Fedora group needs to add, is a simple way of choosing mirrors for thw yum/up2date system. It is easy for me to set it up, and I can also use apt/synaptic if I want. But I'm not sure if the typical hobby user does. USE's online update tool is a good model of how to do it.
Red Hat Desktop strategy: Semantics have been part of the messaging problem Posted May 7, 2004 12:46 UTC (Fri) by cdamian (subscriber, #1271) [Link] I use fedora too and I love it, but even for a home system the update cycle is a bit high. In a couple of weeks I will have to upgrade my three machines at home to FC2, which probably will be a lot of work even though yum handles most of it pretty good.
Red Hat Desktop strategy: Semantics have been part of the messaging problem Posted May 7, 2004 14:18 UTC (Fri) by mattdm (subscriber, #18) [Link] Why will you have to upgrade? Fedora Legacy will continue to put out updates for quite some time.
Red Hat Desktop strategy: Semantics have been part of the messaging problem Posted May 7, 2004 17:24 UTC (Fri) by JoeBuck (subscriber, #2330) [Link] The version of apt from Fedora Extras for Fedora Core 1 does have an easy way of letting the user choose mirrors and then setting up an appropriate sources.list.
Red Hat Desktop strategy: Semantics have been part of the messaging problem Posted May 7, 2004 21:33 UTC (Fri) by tomsi (subscriber, #2306) [Link] You are right, I just found that one the other day.It looks to me that there is a growing community around Fedora, so I don't hesitate in recommending it to newcomers to the Linxu world. That's what's so great about Linux; there is something for everyone out there. Well, almost everyone - I guess Mr. Gates hasn't switched yet ;)
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