Switching from PHP to Zope/Python [LWN.net]

Kuro5hin is carrying a lengthy article about one developer's switch from PHP to Zope for web application development. "Zope is a beautifully integrated set of solutions to common web development problems. It works in a substantially different way to traditionally scripted web-applications. Think of it as a collection of objects help with web publishing rather than a set of scripts to do a job."

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Switching from PHP to Zope/Python

Posted Mar 24, 2004 22:13 UTC (Wed) by kornak (guest, #17589) [Link]

It seems someone from SCO is trolling through these stories:

http://www.kuro5hin.org/comments/2004/3/21/184222/896?pid=68#71

quote:

"Unless your program is only used with the inferior theftware Java implementations, you are inevitably going to run up the viral provisions of the GPL if you attempt to do this. If your software requires linking against the Java libraries (and it is pretty much impossible to write a Java program that doesn't ), and it is run using the sun Java virtual machine, the act of executing your software will produce a derived work consisting of both GPL-incompatible code (namely, the Java library) and GPL code, and hence using it will be against the GPL, in much the same way that using the Qt libraries distributed under Trolltech's highly reasonable licensing terms along with GPL software was illegal before they caved into pressure from "open source" activists. A better choice would be to keep the code proprietary and distribute binaries as freeware if you are dead-set against deriving any kind of profit from the making of computer software."...

Switching from PHP to Zope/Python

Posted Mar 24, 2004 23:25 UTC (Wed) by flewellyn (subscriber, #5047) [Link]

That's kuro5hin, though. The articles are sometimes worth reading, but usually k5 is a tale told by many idiots, full of sound and fury, and signifying nothing.

Switching from PHP to Zope/Python

Posted Mar 24, 2004 23:43 UTC (Wed) by huffd (guest, #10382) [Link]

Please read the comments at the end of the article. I think they took the rose colored glasses off the article pretty well.

Switching from PHP to Zope/Python

Posted Mar 25, 2004 15:45 UTC (Thu) by hathawsh (guest, #11289) [Link]

The complaints are outdated.

- The new ZPT, combined with Python scripts, is a much cleaner templating solution than DTML.

- You don't have to put your database in one big file. That's only the default configuration. There are many options today.

- ZEO is free, enabling you to run a clustered configuration.

- Yes, acquisition can be hairy. The next major release, Zope 3, will not use acquisition.

- Zope uses the ZPL, which is a very liberal, GPL-compatible license.

I've been using and developing with Zope for several years. I've found it quite productive because it enables people to work independently on a single Web project, then join their work together with a minimum of effort. That's not a clear benefit for one-person projects, but for larger projects it's a tremendous advantage.

No acquisition? Denied!

Posted Mar 27, 2004 16:43 UTC (Sat) by Baylink (subscriber, #755) [Link]

That was the best part!

What the hell are they replacing it with?