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Bruce Perens on UserLinux (LinuxWorld)

LinuxWorld talks with Bruce Perens about UserLinux. "UserLinux is taking the approach of "let's have a lot of support companies working together as equals on UserLinux, so that you can find the expert that you need, and so that competition drives quality up and prices down. Let's encourage service providers to differentiate themselves by specializing in niche markets that they know well. I want there to be so many UserLinux service providers that you'll be able to find a company that specializes in supporting dentists in Minnesota. And I don't want to own any part of that company - I just want to be its equal partner in developing the UserLinux system." And when you think of it this way, it turns out to be an approach that is particularly good for the more technically challenging markets because those are the markets that a Red Hat or SUSE can't go to. Red Hat is bound by strategies that enhance shareholder value, so they have to focus on the big market."
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Posted Mar 17, 2004 21:51 UTC (Wed) by andrel (guest, #5166) [Link]

The interview occured on 4 December 2003. I wonder why it took them so long to publish it?

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Posted Mar 17, 2004 21:59 UTC (Wed) by cpeterso (guest, #305) [Link]

LinuxWorld has a print magazine, so maybe they didn't want their web content to be newer than their print magazine? Or maybe their editorial process is not working on "print time" and not "internet time"? :-)

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Posted Mar 17, 2004 22:31 UTC (Wed) by ris (editor, #5) [Link]

That is the lead time for dead tree versions.

Bruce Perens on UserLinux (LinuxWorld)

Posted Mar 18, 2004 0:54 UTC (Thu) by bojan (subscriber, #14302) [Link]

> It's almost humorous that Red Hat has never been able to get package management to work as well as Debian's apt-get.

This is not exactly true: yum works pretty good most of the time (actually, I haven't had a failure yet), up2date is there if you want to stick with RH only (I think now you can even pick mirrors with it, but not 100% on that). They also had paid-for RHN stuff (probably still do). There is also Red Carpet from Ximian, which works on RHL, for the command line challenged. Wasn't there also apt-rpm?

Bruce Perens on UserLinux (LinuxWorld)

Posted Mar 18, 2004 4:22 UTC (Thu) by mmarq (guest, #2332) [Link]

"I want there to be so many UserLinux service providers that you'll be able to find a company that specializes in supporting dentists in Minnesota. And I don't want to own any part of that company - I just want to be its equal partner in developing the UserLinux system. "

The million dollar question: What about other distros or applications projects not directly tied to UserLinux ??

Wouldn't that be great if UserLInux would be the first distro to support something like a common runtime environment, (something like what is defined in
http://ometer.com/desktop-language.html
or and
http://people.redhat.com/~hp/proposal/proposal.html )
,... and be a equal partner of possibly of the entire Open Source world code base!?...

"THAT COULD MAKE UserLinux nš1 DISTRO IN A COUPLE OF YEARS"

I belive Red Hat haven't already done that, because the big business differentiation it persues in focus, prevent them to "think" more widely.

Bruce Perens on UserLinux (LinuxWorld)

Posted Mar 18, 2004 7:22 UTC (Thu) by BrucePerens (subscriber, #2510) [Link]

Take a thorough look at Debian and tell me if you still think it's not already what you want. 12,000 is a lot of packages.

Bruce

Bruce Perens on UserLinux (LinuxWorld)

Posted Mar 18, 2004 11:25 UTC (Thu) by csigler (subscriber, #1224) [Link]

12,000 is *too*many* packages, eh, Comrades? Right?

What? We won? Yay, Debian! ;^)

Clemmitt

Bruce Perens on UserLinux (LinuxWorld)

Posted Mar 18, 2004 18:23 UTC (Thu) by mmarq (guest, #2332) [Link]

Its not the number...

A differente distro should have something really different, not based on commercial views... i suppose...

Its the apparent simplicity of a simple commom runtime environment implementation, and the power that it could give to the Open Source cause,... that could constitute a "Real Marketing Point of Sale" for the first distro that implements it.

And with Microsoft trying to "capture" the internet with their XAML, and trying to lock-in the PC platform with Palladium, i belive Open Source needs the power of common solutions more than ever.

Marques

Bruce Perens on UserLinux (LinuxWorld)

Posted Mar 18, 2004 13:34 UTC (Thu) by stumbles (guest, #8796) [Link]

Sounds like UnitedLinux.

Bruce Perens on UserLinux (LinuxWorld)

Posted Mar 18, 2004 21:12 UTC (Thu) by pointwood (subscriber, #2814) [Link]

I find the comment about video cards and fear of software patents to be quite interesting.

Bruce, would you care to say something more about that? I could imagine you got more info than just what you said in that interview.

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