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Another Netfilter GPL enforcement

Another Netfilter GPL enforcement

Posted Mar 3, 2004 8:20 UTC (Wed) by fooker (guest, #14834)
In reply to: Another Netfilter GPL enforcement by laf0rge
Parent article: Another Netfilter GPL enforcement

FYI, the 'Made in Taiwan' tag just means that the devices are manufactured in Taiwan. One can't tell where they are designed. According to your logic most of the big IC companies 'just' resell taiwanese devices with their name slapped on the package. I would suspect that companies whose whole product set consists of network devices would design them in-house. Thus being the original copyright infringers. No shady foreign pirates involved.

You are accusing Taiwan so enthusiasticly that I would assume you have some facts to back up your claims. Or that you had your tinfoil hat on when writing the article.

PS. I was able to decode your 'clever' obfusciation of the country name :-)


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Another Netfilter GPL enforcement

Posted Mar 3, 2004 9:55 UTC (Wed) by laf0rge (subscriber, #6469) [Link]

I can back up my claims. From the FSC and Allnet negotiations we know that they both bought ready-built devices. FSC bought from a .tw company, which themselves bought from another .tw company. The original .tw company did have a GPL disclaimer, but the second one missed to forward it to FSC.

From the FSF enforcement in the Linksys case we know that the original design of the device (the same as Allnet, Buffalo, Belkin and a couple of others) came from Broadcom. In fact, I also know that Broadcom required at least one of their customers to sign an NDA _not_ to release any of the source code.

An I am not accusing Taiwan as a country, nor the Taiwanese people. I am accusing the business practise of Taiwanese hardware vendors. And not to care about copyright (and thus the GPL) appears to be more common than actually caring about it.

Another Netfilter GPL enforcement

Posted Mar 3, 2004 15:33 UTC (Wed) by baruch (subscriber, #14769) [Link]

I have worked in a company that supplied software to the taiwanesse companies that developed the hardware for various resellers.

The way I saw it, Linksys et al are only OEMs for hardware developed by ODMs from taiwan, Linksys will mostly supply the requirements and final acceptance testing, hardly any (if at all) development is done in-house.

The general thought-line regarding GPL was: "If we are not forced, we'll do nothing to release back source code of GPL parts". There was though a clear attempt to make as little code be forced into openness.

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