A grumpy user's browser review [LWN.net]

A grumpy user's browser review

Posted Feb 11, 2004 19:26 UTC (Wed) by mhf (guest, #19256)
Parent article: A grumpy user's browser review

Was missing a review of opera. Currently using version 7.23 for linux.

Yes it is commercial, but in terms of speed and productivity it beats all other browsers.

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A grumpy user's browser review

Posted Feb 11, 2004 20:12 UTC (Wed) by tjc (subscriber, #137) [Link]

Was missing a review of opera. Currently using version 7.23 for linux. Just curious: load this page and see how Opera does. Firefox passes all but 3 tests; IE 6 fails all but the first.

PASSes for Opera 7.23 and Konqueror 3.1.4

Posted Feb 11, 2004 21:13 UTC (Wed) by JLCdjinn (subscriber, #1905) [Link]

Just gave it a shot. Opera 7.23 registers a pass on 0, 9, 10, 11, 12, and 13. Konqueror 3.1.4 registers a pass on 0 and 1. Thanks for pointing the test out - very interesting. A question, though. It seems like each test is simply a query on a particular JavaScript built-in value; how accurate is this in actually determining if a particular browser supports the particular feature?

PASSes for Opera 7.23 and Konqueror 3.1.4

Posted Feb 11, 2004 23:14 UTC (Wed) by tjc (subscriber, #137) [Link]

It seems like each test is simply a query on a particular JavaScript built-in value; how accurate is this in actually determining if a particular browser supports the particular feature?

Not very, but sometimes it's the best you can do. MSFT in particular is bad. IE 6 only passes level 1 core, but even then it doesn't correctly implement all the the required methods.

PASSes for Opera 7.23 and Konqueror 3.1.4

Posted Feb 12, 2004 17:32 UTC (Thu) by tjc (subscriber, #137) [Link]

FYI, here's a link to the chapter in the ORA book from which I got this information:

http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/jscript4/chapter/ch17.html

It's very handy that the sample chapter they posted happens to be the one containing this information!

Like most O'reilly books this one is well above average. The first quarter of the book covers the JavaScript language, the second quarter covers web browsers as an execution environment, and the second half is a comprehensive reference. I own the 3rd and 4th editions, and recommend this book if you do any client-side web programming.

PASSes for Opera 7.23 and Konqueror 3.1.4

Posted Feb 12, 2004 18:20 UTC (Thu) by lypanov (subscriber, #8858) [Link]

jfyi 3.2 konqueror passes 10 tests (well, assuming i can count :))

A grumpy user's browser review

Posted Feb 11, 2004 22:08 UTC (Wed) by wolfrider (guest, #3105) [Link]

--Opera 6.12 for Linux:

W3C DOM Conformance Test

Level 1 Core/HTML Interfaces
FAIL

Level 1 Core/XML Interfaces
FAIL

Level 2 Core Interfaces
PASS

Level 2 HTML Interfaces
PASS

Level 2 XML Interfaces
FAIL

Abstract View Interface
FAIL

Generic Style Sheet Traversal
FAIL

CSS Styles [Views]
FAIL

CSS2 Properties Interface [CSS]
FAIL

Event Handling Infrastructure
PASS

User Interface Events [Events, Views]
PASS

Mouse Events [UIEvents]
PASS

HTML Events [Events]
PASS

Document Mutation Events [Events]
PASS

Document Range Interfaces
FAIL

Document Traversal Interfaces
FAIL

A grumpy user's browser review

Posted Feb 11, 2004 23:16 UTC (Wed) by tjc (subscriber, #137) [Link]

Interesting that it fails level 1 core, yet passes level 2 core.

A grumpy user's browser review

Posted Feb 12, 2004 11:43 UTC (Thu) by pointwood (subscriber, #2814) [Link]

AFAIK, Opera 7.x is *much* improved over Opera 6.x.

A grumpy user's browser review

Posted Feb 11, 2004 20:21 UTC (Wed) by NAR (subscriber, #1313) [Link]

I use Opera too. And I just stare at those memory consumption values with dread in my eyes :-) The mentioned rendering times are also ridicolous - I didn't think my Duron 750 is that fast... And Opera has one more advangate - it works on other platforms too so I can easily keep the bookmarks in sync.

Bye,NAR