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Review of Mozilla Firefox 0.8 from the Perspective of a Galeon User (MozillaZine)

MozillaZine points to this article by Dave Whitinger, reviewing Mozilla Firefox 0.8. "Has Mozilla Firefox finally broken the speed and stability barriers in order to bring about a browser change to this long-time Galeon user? After all this time, Firefox finally won me over and caused me to change my regular web browser."
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Emacs edit keys? (MozillaZine)

Posted Feb 10, 2004 21:55 UTC (Tue) by ncm (subscriber, #165) [Link]

Yes, I'm sure it's very nice, but does it do Emacs edit key bindings?

Galeon only just got that. (Actually, Galeon 1.2-series had it, but then lost it until 1.3.12. Cost of rewrites.)

Emacs edit keys? (MozillaZine)

Posted Feb 10, 2004 22:02 UTC (Tue) by jwb (subscriber, #15467) [Link]

Say what? Just set your GNOME keyboard shortcuts preferences to Emacs.

Emacs edit keys? (MozillaZine)

Posted Feb 10, 2004 22:12 UTC (Tue) by piman (subscriber, #8957) [Link]

And Firefox (which is not a GNOME app) will honor that?

Emacs edit keys? (MozillaZine)

Posted Feb 10, 2004 22:17 UTC (Tue) by dave (guest, #7) [Link]

emacs keybindings are indeed there (at least, the few that I use are, such as Ctrl-U, Ctrl-A, Ctrl-E, etc). One thing I miss from the old Galeon days is the vi bindings, like using j and k to move up and down the page.

Review of Mozilla Firefox 0.8 from the Perspective of a Galeon User

Posted Feb 10, 2004 22:43 UTC (Tue) by phubert (subscriber, #2972) [Link]

One thing I found interesting in reading at the Mozilla site was that Firebird/Firefox and Thunderbird were aimed -primarily- at Windows boxes (makes sense, there are a LOT MORE of them). Firefox 0.8, however, is a very buggy release: tabbed browsing doesn't work and neither does install manager. I need to get into the forums to see if there's any discussion of it.

I guess my point is: Linux users are reviewing a product the developers say was primarily targeting Microsoft's IE. Sounds as though it needs evaluation from the Windows side if the effectiveness of that goal is to be properly vetted.

Review of Mozilla Firefox 0.8 from the Perspective of a Galeon User

Posted Feb 10, 2004 22:57 UTC (Tue) by denials (subscriber, #3413) [Link]

Characterizing FireFox 0.8 as a "really buggy release" is a bit excessive, I think. Don't believe everything you read.

Tabbed browsing has worked just fine so far in my full two days of using FireFox on a Windows XP machine. And I use tabs a lot.

I also use forms, SSL-encrypted Web sites, and complex CSS and JavaScript front ends a fair bit in my day to day job. I can't say that I've seen a single glitch in the past two days.

Can't vouch for Install Manager, though.

Review of Mozilla Firefox 0.8 from the Perspective of a Galeon User

Posted Feb 10, 2004 23:02 UTC (Tue) by tjc (guest, #137) [Link]

Firefox 0.8, however, is a very buggy release: tabbed browsing doesn't work and neither does install manager.

I'm using Firefox (for a whole day now!) on both Windows and Linux, and all is working well. I'm not crazy about the default settings for download manager, but other than that it's not much different than Firebird 0.7. The Icon is nicer, IMO.

Review of Mozilla Firefox 0.8 from the Perspective of a Galeon User

Posted May 7, 2004 15:06 UTC (Fri) by vafer (guest, #21443) [Link]

Firefox 0.8, however, is a very buggy release: tabbed browsing doesn't work and neither does install manager.

We are running Firefox 0.8 on the new Mac OS X 10.3.3 Panther and Windows XP + 2000. Firefox was choseSo far we have encountered no problems in 3 days and the browser could not be any faster. The only problems people are having is but Internet Explorer did this...

The tabs work great, the install manager seems to do okay and overall it seems much more stable on the Panther OS than did Mozilla 1.6. I would have to agree the default settings on the download manager are a pain, it would be nice if in the install where to make your default download location.

Review of Mozilla Firefox 0.8 from the Perspective of a Galeon User

Posted Feb 10, 2004 23:04 UTC (Tue) by tjc (guest, #137) [Link]

Oh, by the way -- I predict that version 0.9 will be called "Firefly." ;-)

Review of Mozilla Firefox 0.8 from the Perspective of a Galeon User (MozillaZine)

Posted Feb 10, 2004 23:51 UTC (Tue) by einstein (subscriber, #2052) [Link]

Very sharp -

too bad mailto: links don't work yet - and it's still not possible to mail a url from firefox. A shame, because it's quite nice other than the total disconnect with any ability to handle mail. Oh well, maybe version 0.9, here's hoping.

Review of Mozilla Firefox 0.8 from the Perspective of a Galeon User (MozillaZine)

Posted Feb 11, 2004 1:43 UTC (Wed) by estel (guest, #732) [Link]

This is what extensions are for; try mozex.

Review of Mozilla Firefox 0.8 from the Perspective of a Galeon User (MozillaZine)

Posted Feb 11, 2004 4:06 UTC (Wed) by einstein (subscriber, #2052) [Link]

Yep, been there, installed mozex, no joy. I'm sure it will get fixed eventually, but in the meantime moz 1.6 is taking care of business.

Review of Mozilla Firefox 0.8 from the Perspective of a Galeon User (MozillaZine)

Posted Feb 11, 2004 7:35 UTC (Wed) by fghorow (subscriber, #5229) [Link]

The mozex FAQ lists a string of the form "evolution mailto:%A?Subject=%S&Cc=%C&body=%B" to invoke evolution (for instance) as your mailer. I've tried that, and it indeed is flakey, as you correctly say.

Somewhere in the mailing lists, I found the alternative form "evolution %r". It works a treat.

Try it. You'll like it.

HTH

Does Fire[bird/fox] use GTK2 ???

Posted Feb 11, 2004 9:06 UTC (Wed) by bockman (subscriber, #3650) [Link]

The author of the linked article justifies the performance boost from Firebird to Firefox with the fact that it uses GTK2 instead of XUL. ASAIK, firebird used XUL, exactly like mozilla. Unless they have made such a big design change in the transition from 0.7 to 0.8, firefox also uses XUL (and the screenshots in the article appear to confirm it). So what?

Does Fire[bird/fox] use GTK2 ???

Posted Feb 11, 2004 13:02 UTC (Wed) by movement (subscriber, #871) [Link]

It uses XUL, the author posted a correction. The assumption obviously came from the persistent but wrong-headed belief that XUL is inherently dog-slow.

Review of Mozilla Firefox 0.8 from the Perspective of a Galeon User (MozillaZine)

Posted Feb 11, 2004 11:32 UTC (Wed) by tracyreed (guest, #16253) [Link]

WHEN will Mozilla get a text edit field with embedded vim? Once again I find myself authoring text in an incredibly simple editor. I want easy cursor movement a la vi plus all of the regex powers etc. PLEASE give us an embedded vim!

Use the editor of your choice to edit text areas on web pages

Posted Feb 11, 2004 17:35 UTC (Wed) by scripter (subscriber, #2654) [Link]

Try the mozex extension. I've used it successfully on Windows. Don't know about Linux.

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