Darl Goes to Harvard - My First Quick Impressions (Groklaw)
[Posted February 3, 2004 by corbet]
Groklaw reports on Darl McBride's talk at Harvard.
"The big news is that they say they will start to sue copyright end users by February 18. The other news is that he asked the audience if they had gotten infected by MyDoom, and he pointed to one guy who beautifully answered, 'No, I use Linux, so I wasn't affected,' and the room laughed. Darl wasn't happy about that and it was clear he didn't like the questions about the ABI files." There are also some pictures available.
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Darl Goes to Harvard - My First Quick Impressions (Groklaw)
Posted Feb 3, 2004 15:38 UTC (Tue) by Ajarn (guest, #8521)
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February 18..........hmmm
someone should make a list of the dates that SCO was suppose to sue X, Y and Z, and for how much. would be nice to have it on one page
Darl Goes to Harvard - My First Quick Impressions (Groklaw)
Posted Feb 3, 2004 20:26 UTC (Tue) by djabsolut (guest, #12799)
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Interesting that he should say 18 February; isn't there a court date in a few days (IBM case) ? SCO must be expecting things to go bad - hence the need to generate more press...
Darl Goes to Harvard - My First Quick Impressions (Groklaw)
Posted Feb 3, 2004 16:40 UTC (Tue) by freethinker (guest, #4397)
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It's really interesting how the SCO crew keep walking into places like courtrooms and Harvard and giving their spiel, and expecting everyone to be as credulous and uncritical as the journalists they've been so skillfully manipulating. Oh, yeah, we own this stuff, and the evil Linux people stole it, and we could prove it if we'd just get some cooperation, but we'll prove it anyway, so there, and they keep bringing our website down, and death threats, and we'll sue everyone on earth real soon now. It's like Microsoft's bratty kid brother.
Darl Goes to Harvard - My First Quick Impressions (Groklaw)
Posted Feb 3, 2004 16:46 UTC (Tue) by allesfresser (subscriber, #216)
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>It's like Microsoft's bratty kid brother.
I think that's the best summary I've heard yet... :-)
Darl Goes to Harvard - My First Quick Impressions (Groklaw)
Posted Feb 3, 2004 17:20 UTC (Tue) by stumbles (guest, #8796)
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To bad McBride did not get educated while there.
Darl Goes to Harvard - My First Quick Impressions (Groklaw)
Posted Feb 7, 2004 13:29 UTC (Sat) by Duncan (guest, #6647)
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It's just possible he WAS.. Quite an interesting article linked from the pix article comments, from someone there (and on our side)..
http://web.mit.edu/jonas/www/faim/
I don't expect even if the comment about the effect of the FUD had the effect estimated in the article, and that seed grows and sprouts, that it will become significant enough to change behavior over night, but it might be interesting to see what the community's reaction to SCOG changing tactics, continuing its IBM contract (and now copyright suit), but dropping the anti-GPL stuff, and actually releasing code, might be.
Do I expect it to happen? Not really. Even if it does, if Darl is impressed with the idea and can change the course of the entire company, it's not going to happen immediately. Still, it's interesting to think about what might happen if it does..
Duncan
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Posted Feb 3, 2004 18:27 UTC (Tue) by JoeBuck (subscriber, #2330)
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So Darl wants to claim, now, that someone stripped comments off files, and this is a DMCA violation. Even if this were true, he neglects to mention two things:
In the original Unix, there were no copyright notices on the files;
In the US, retroactive laws are prohibited by the Constitution; nothing that happened before the DMCA was passed can be punishable under the DMCA.
Darl Goes to Harvard - My First Quick Impressions (Groklaw)
Posted Feb 4, 2004 2:13 UTC (Wed) by bojan (subscriber, #14302)
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Since when do laws and constitution apply to SCO?
;-)
Darl Goes to Harvard - My First Quick Impressions (Groklaw)
Posted Feb 5, 2004 17:43 UTC (Thu) by The_Flatlander (guest, #19245)
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He neglected to mention *more* than just two things.
For example: even if there were copyright messages on those files, even if those self-same notices had been stripped, and even if those self-same stripped files had been copied byte-for-byte into Linux the SCOundrels' *still* wouldn't have a claim because it is not their copyright!
While it is undeniably sweet of the SCOundrels to be so concerned with Novell's IP Rights, but really, Novell doesn't look worried, so the SCOundrels should lay off.