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Interview With Darl McBride (CNN.com)
CNN.com
interviews Darl McBride, president and CEO of the SCO Group.
"This is a new digital frontier. We came out, we found that key parts of our code -- we owned the Unix operating system -- was showing up in this new upstart program called Linux. These new programmers working with IBM. We found that things were violated against our copyrights.
And so we filed a $3 billion lawsuit against IBM. We've been working through a judicial system here. But now you have people going outside the system, trying to attack us, to try and shut us down before we have a court verdict."
Thanks to Murry.
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Interview With Darl McBride (CNN.com) Posted Jan 30, 2004 16:04 UTC (Fri) by tomsi (subscriber, #2306) [Link] Excuse me. Is this Darl McBride for real? Reading the CNN transcript, I get the feeling he is living on a different planet.
Interview With Darl McBride (CNN.com) Posted Jan 30, 2004 16:27 UTC (Fri) by rankincj (subscriber, #4865) [Link] Fascinating. The interviewer wanted to talk about MyDoom, but all Darl seemed to want was another chance to spread the same old FUD.
Interview With Darl McBride (CNN.com) Posted Jan 31, 2004 2:43 UTC (Sat) by LintuxCx (subscriber, #14448) [Link] It just looks like he's a robot programmed to do so... Especially this part is just crazy: "So I guess conceivably they could turn themselves in, go to jail, sit around with their $250,000 and get out. So I guess maybe that's the way to make money. Since you can't make money with Linux because it's free, maybe that's the new monetization system." (Hey, although it *is* about this virus, sort-of)
Interview With Darl McBride (CNN.com) Posted Jan 31, 2004 14:10 UTC (Sat) by mmarq (guest, #2332) [Link] Talking about Mydoom, as about the 65000 virus and worms before it, is to much embarrassing to his Ma$ter.
Interview With Darl McBride (CNN.com) Posted Jan 31, 2004 4:57 UTC (Sat) by djabsolut (guest, #12799) [Link] No need to fret, for the end of SCO is near. The folks are Groklaw have prepared yet another fine piece of work, shredding to bits one of SCO's recent claims. In summary, they show that SCO/Caldera explicitly released source code under GPL that it now claims as "stolen" from them.
Interview With Darl McBride (CNN.com) Posted Jan 30, 2004 16:21 UTC (Fri) by xorbe (guest, #3165) [Link] "Well, we believe -- we have had four attacks on our company over the last year. At least one was claimed -- the Linux community claimed responsibility for the attack."Nice wording.
Interview With Darl McBride (CNN.com) Posted Feb 1, 2004 13:43 UTC (Sun) by bojan (subscriber, #14302) [Link] Maybe ESR should be more careful next time.
Interview With Darl McBride (CNN.com) Posted Jan 30, 2004 16:26 UTC (Fri) by iabervon (subscriber, #722) [Link] Is he being misquoted, or is he talking about owning UNIX in the past tense? Given the way their evidence evaporates when anyone looks at it, it seems somewhat appropriate.
Interview With Darl McBride (CNN.com) Posted Jan 30, 2004 16:58 UTC (Fri) by murry (guest, #13033) [Link] It was pretty clear when I watched that the interviewer had one agenda, Darl had another. Darl was "intense" and uptight, like a man focussed and incapable of flexible response. A man on a campaign.The interviewer, mild Miles O'Brien was only interested in the bounty hunting story, not the SCO vs. IBM stuff. On air, there was a clear disconnect between Miles and Darl and it shows in the transcript. As a related aside, the SCO/IBM stuff did catch some coverage on a San Francisco network TV news program last night, but it was in the context of the virus story. At least the SF anchor provided some connecting comments without denigrating open source or Linux. Murry (who probably watches too much TV...)
Interview With Darl McBride (CNN.com) Posted Jan 30, 2004 18:06 UTC (Fri) by vblum (subscriber, #1151) [Link] These new programmers working with Cald... IBM.Wow. That company spent a long time developing this new upstart program before it
Interview With Darl McBride (CNN.com) Posted Jan 30, 2004 19:03 UTC (Fri) by allesfresser (subscriber, #216) [Link] I found this quote rather bizarre and amusing: Well, the way it works here, Miles, is to pay the reward out means that that person will be in jail. So I guess conceivably they could turn themselves in, go to jail, sit around with their $250,000 and get out. So I guess maybe that's the way to make money. Since you can't make money with Linux because it's free, maybe that's the new monetization system. Hey, it's just as good as the one you thought up, Darl... (and hopefully will have the same result, except for the getting the money when you get out part...)
Interview With Darl McBride (CNN.com) Posted Jan 30, 2004 20:16 UTC (Fri) by utoddl (subscriber, #1232) [Link] ...get out?
Interview With Darl McBride (CNN.com) Posted Jan 30, 2004 20:41 UTC (Fri) by rjamestaylor (guest, #339) [Link] Good catch. I mean, you know what they do to anti-Leenucks people in prison...
ze communeety has eets vays... Posted Feb 1, 2004 23:56 UTC (Sun) by xoddam (subscriber, #2322) [Link] R O T F L !
Interview With Darl McBride (CNN.com) Posted Jan 30, 2004 21:05 UTC (Fri) by fLameDogg (guest, #11305) [Link] Since you can't make money with Linux because it's free...Maybe you can't Darl, but others can. Like Red Hat, IBM, and even Slackware, which as apparently always been profitable (if smaller-scale than even, say, SCO)... and apparently Novell thinks it can. Anyway, why am I talking to Darl? He's not here. I must be getting as crazy as a--as a Darl!
Interview With Darl McBride (CNN.com) Posted Jan 31, 2004 1:39 UTC (Sat) by climent (subscriber, #7232) [Link] ...this new upstart program called Linux (emph. added)He might be speaking about UserModeLinux. Or a glitch in the Matrix.
Interview With Darl McBride (CNN.com) Posted Jan 31, 2004 7:44 UTC (Sat) by stumbles (guest, #8796) [Link] Sorry I can't even bring myself to read the article because I know he is out right lying,distorting the history of UNIX, Unix and Linux and hiding the history of SCOG. I hope the day will come when he is exposed for the liar he is.
Interview With Darl McBride (CNN.com) Posted Jan 31, 2004 9:49 UTC (Sat) by pblanco (guest, #16087) [Link] It is a shame that the OS community can't or won't get the same media attention as McBride or the other worm McDoom. Someone like Perens who could provide a sane counter to McBride's half-lucid drivel. The public at large will believe what they ee on TV or read in the papers... if it's only one side of the story, that good enough for most people.
Interview With Darl McBride (CNN.com) Posted Jan 31, 2004 9:51 UTC (Sat) by pblanco (guest, #16087) [Link] Sorry for the dropped characters and extra spaces. There is a certain back-illuminated keyboard you all may want to steer clear of... mine is on it's way to the garbage after I post this.
Interview With Darl McBride (CNN.com) Posted Jan 31, 2004 13:22 UTC (Sat) by walterbyrd (guest, #11620) [Link] Great post on the subject from the yahoo message boards:--------------------------------------------------------- Re: McBride CNN Interview >> O'BRIEN: You know that wild west analogy is apt isn't it? McBride responds and his response has NOTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO WITH A VIRUS OR A REWARD. >> MCBRIDE: This is a new digital frontier. We came out, we found that key parts of our code -- we owned the Unix operating system -- was showing up in this new upstart program called Linux. << I am sorry but McBride is either a barefaced liar or shockingly ignorant. Linux is already in to its SECOND DECADE and in widespread use for almost as long. There are companies whose sole business is Linux that have been public upwards of 5 YEARS, never mind the years they were in operation before that. The statement that "key parts" of Linux contain UNIX code that SCO owns cannot be dismissed as stupidity or ignorance. I can only conclude that he is taking advantage of the fact that he is not under oath and subject to imprisonment to tell categorical lies. We know that NOT A SHRED of evidence to support this claim has been publicly presented so what else are we to conclude except that he is a God damned liar? I will be happy to reconsider that opinion if SCO were to produce one iota of evidence to the contrary. Meanwhile, the effect is that many naive and ignorant investors are being suckered in to purchasing SCOX and in my opinion they have an actionable case against SCO and its management when SCO's claims are thrown out of court. >> And so we filed a $3 billion lawsuit against IBM. We've been working through a judicial system here. But now you have people going outside the system, trying to attack us, to try and shut us down before we have a court verdict. << Who is trying to shut down SCO? A bunch of ZIT-FACED scofflaws and hooligans who engage in the same criminal activity on a daily basis anyway? This is nonsense. The vast majority of critics are thoughtful, reasoned, rational individuals who have given SCO the benefit of every doubt and SCO has produced NOTHING but rhetoric. Is it any wonder these same people are now convinced this is nothing more than a STOCK SCAM?
WHAT IS HE TALKING ABOUT? The virus is a WINDOWS virus. This clown who calls Linux a new upstart is now posing as an expert on computer viruses and claiming that Linux is the source? I'm sorry, but this guy is just too much of a moron to be a threat to Linux.
>> MCBRIDE: Well, we believe -- we have had four attacks on our company over the last year. At least one was claimed -- the Linux community claimed responsibility for the attack. << HE ASKED WHETHER LINUX WAS SUSCEPTIBLE. Why are you answering that you BELIEVE that you were attacked by Linux? That was not the question. >> We believe that there is a problem with Linux in terms of the code we see showing up inside of there. We don't know for sure if this attack is coming from Linux, but we have very strong suspicions that is the case.<< WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? What "problem"? What "code"? You mislead O'Brien by suggesting that Linux was susceptible to viruses, now you are babbling incoherently on about problematic code, as in the code that you claim came from SCO? This is nothing but unadulterated, incoherent B-U-L-L-S-H-I-T.
Interview With Darl McBride (CNN.com) Posted Jan 31, 2004 15:12 UTC (Sat) by mmarq (guest, #2332) [Link] Well... but if the conversation would had been about Mydoom -virus and worms- is not likely but O'Brien could had come foward with the number of 65000 virus and worms for MS Windows (Worm Marked), and ask for a explanation !...... and how about the information from Anti-Virus companys about theirs valuation of 5 to 10 new Windows virus in a daily basis... The Anti-Virus companys *simply* cant handle it,... and if the valuations have any value, it could mean that there *are/were* at least 65000 virus writers, and growing fast... and a lot if not the large majority of them *are not* in a tipical criminal, or terrorist, profile... its quite obvious... because (in an example) if MSBlaster could be compared to a tumor, then it was a benign one, because if it were malign it could have had "format C: /u"(or something comparable) in their inserted command lines... COULD YOU JUST IMAGINE HOW SCARED TO DEAD M$ EXECUTIVES ARE ? Now... can you imagine McBride exposing his Ma$ter, or do anything that could be comparable to lighten up a match that starts the fire of a panic fled away fron windows... i dont know... but this is a good explanation for McBride's unadulterated, incoherent and unbelivable bullshit.(i had to read it twice because at the first time i couldn't belive it)
What use would a machine be to a spammer then? Posted Feb 3, 2004 3:19 UTC (Tue) by leonbrooks (guest, #1494) [Link] Better to keep the bodies warm, and feed on them for a loooong time.I wonder how far along passive OS fingerprinting has come? Simply adding 2 maliciousness points to anything sent directly from an MS-Windows box should help the malware scoring magnificently.
Interview With Darl McBride (CNN.com) Posted Feb 3, 2004 9:41 UTC (Tue) by XERC (guest, #14626) [Link] Viruses exist because of SECURITY HOLES!!! Win___s hasn't got a chanseagainst worms and stuff like that, because, in stead of fixing the problem, THE SECURITY HOLES, they try to prevent and cure the symptoms. The AntiVirus software's sole purpose is to try to act as a guard on the huge security hole by trying to prevent anyone moving in the castle through that hole. Later, when the closed source, business secret containing castle has been hit, the AntiVirus software sends few guards in to the castle to catch the intruder(virus, worm, trojan horse, etc.) and clean up the damage. Naturally, the guards, who are sent in to the castle, can only use the maps, that their masters, the AntiVirus companies, have. I'm not an operating systems' specialist, nor a security specialist, but to me it seems, that from designs point of view, the Win___s has a totally wrong approach and I think, that this "cosmetic" approach doesn't lead anywhere. May be, if the AntiVirus companies were hacking the Win___s kernel with the Microsoftians, then we might expect some better results, but meanwhile, it's all a huge show with hot-selling tickets(the W_____s and AntiVirus licenses).
Interview With Darl McBride (CNN.com) Posted Jan 31, 2004 19:11 UTC (Sat) by vonbrand (subscriber, #4458) [Link] Take care not to read too much of what he spews forth, "... some of that darlness could rub off on you"
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