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The New Economy Hack: Turning Consumers into Producers (Linux Journal)
Doc Searls searches for open
source news at Macworld, on Linux Journal. "Sure enough, I
couldn't even find mentions of Darwin or open source among any of the
breakout sessions. (Maybe they were there and I missed them; still, the
point is the same.) That's a far cry from three years ago, when a session
on Yellow Dog Linux packed one room while nearby Darwin sessions spilled
into the halls."
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The New Economy Hack: Turning Consumers into Producers (Linux Journal) Posted Jan 10, 2004 2:18 UTC (Sat) by dkite (guest, #4577) [Link] I hate to quibble, but isn't this the same as Adobe and Quark writingDesktop Publishing tools, or Microsoft producing VB, each changing dramatically their respective industries? We will probably see similar applications available for windows, and eventually MS will own the market, driving most competition out. Same old, same old. Unless, there is an open and free application that attracts enough developer attention and user base. The current market economics, with an 800lb gorilla, and the millions needed for marketing and distribution of a traditional application, inevitably ends in a monopoly. Jobs doesn't mention open source any more because they probably realize that the FOSS desktop now has more users than he does. Derek
The New Economy Hack: Turning Consumers into Producers (Linux Journal) Posted Jan 10, 2004 4:38 UTC (Sat) by JoeBuck (subscriber, #2330) [Link] Well, maybe. But Jobs is paying the salaries of a whole team of GCC developers, and they are contributing a lot of useful features back to the FSF version of GCC (soon to appear on a GNU/Linux box near you): precompiled headers (to be in version 3.4) probably being the most useful.
The New Economy Hack: Turning Consumers into Producers (Linux Journal) Posted Jan 11, 2004 19:00 UTC (Sun) by ballombe (subscriber, #9523) [Link] Jobs pays development of GCC features needed for supporting the Machidiosyncrasies heritated from NeXT. I would prefer the money being spend for removing them from Darwin. Porting software to Darwin would then be way easier. I don't need any NeXT gcc features in Linux.
Precompiled headers actually pretty useful Posted Jan 12, 2004 17:00 UTC (Mon) by emk (subscriber, #1128) [Link] Precompiled headers aren't just a crufty NeXT feature. They're quite useful for any project with an enormous number of relatively unchanging headers. For example, the C++ Standard Template Library headers take forever to parse, but precompiled headers handle it almost instantly. Similarly for any large GUI framework. Even some applications contain a modest number of headers which are included nearly everywhere. So a big thank you to Jobs here, even if MacOS X is gratuitously incompatible with real Unix.
The New Economy Hack: Turning Consumers into Producers (Linux Journal) Posted Jan 11, 2004 0:05 UTC (Sun) by njhurst (guest, #6022) [Link] After reading that article I was going to post exactly the same comment as you - if Apple is trying to turn consumers into producers, why do they have to lock everything up? In the case of iTunes, perhaps there is a good reason, but surely most things they produce are able to be FLOSSed? (I'm not talking about the OS, just their toy applications such as iPhoto)Personally I suspect that Apple is merely being the good guy whilst they're the underdog. Their actions, on the other hand, are as much about lock-in as in the past. Several people I work with spent many hours cursing Microsoft for vendor lock in, to the extent of writing letters to newspapers etc. Along comes Apple and now they're all using Microsoft Office again, this time under MacOSX (some even have the temerity to suggest that MacOSX makes linux redundant - how quickly people forget).
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