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Jon Johansen returns to court

Jon Johansen returns to court

Posted Dec 5, 2003 16:34 UTC (Fri) by giraffedata (subscriber, #1954)
In reply to: Jon Johansen returns to court by RobSeace
Parent article: Jon Johansen returns to court

Giles refers to the conclusion of law mentioned in the article:

The court, however, decided that, if you buy a DVD with a film on it, you have bought the right to access that film.

Linux users often apply that conclusion to DECSS by reasoning that if you're a Linux user, you've bought the right to access the film on Linux, and outlawing DECSS would deprive people of their rights. Ergo, writing DECSS must be legal.

So if DECSS were a Windows-only program, that would completely obliterate that argument. So yes, it's originally being a Windows program changes things. There are a dozen reasons it doesn't change things enough to make a difference, but it does change things.


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Jon Johansen returns to court

Posted Dec 6, 2003 19:38 UTC (Sat) by RobSeace (subscriber, #4435) [Link]

No, I don't see any way in which that argument is "obliterated"... The
legal ruling quoted makes no mention of Linux, or any other OS... It says,
"you have bought the right to access that film"... Period... However and
wherever and under whatever OS you like... If you want to access it under
Windoze instead of Linux, well then so be it... You might be accused of
having poor taste in OS's, but that's not a crime... ;-) And, no, it doesn't
matter that you already COULD access it under Windoze, because you couldn't
FULLY access it, in any way you might choose to... And, you have a right to
do so...

Also, remember it was an open source app, so the fact that it happened to be
initially targeted at Windoze does not make it any less useful for Linux
users, either... They were able to take the code, and adapt it into various
apps and libs, which still exist today, and are widely used... So, DeCSS
indeed WAS very important to Linux users, and DID ultimately allow them to
access their DVDs under Linux... Regardless of the OS it was initially
targeted at for testing/proof-of-concept purposes...

To make a comparison, would you claim that OpenSSH isn't important to Linux
users just because it was originally targeted at OpenBSD instead of Linux??
No, that's just silly... Same thing here...

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