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A UserLinux manifestoA UserLinux manifestoPosted Dec 3, 2003 7:02 UTC (Wed) by dang (subscriber, #310)Parent article: A UserLinux manifesto A very real part of the problem, though, really is application providers like Oracle. If RH enterprise is a "lock in", then it is largly so because some application providers are slow to move and often this slowness matters in ways that mature companies can't accomodate. For example, if you need to run Oracle and want to run it on linux, then it wont take long to find out that things can get unexpectedly wonky if you drift too far away from the distro that Oracle certified against. And they have been traditionally slow to certify. Frustrating. Painful. But real. So it is more than just getting application providers to play along. It is getting them to play aggressively. I hope that they want to. I'm not sure that there is an incentive for them to. If not, then a DBA whose job is a function of uptime seems to have a compelling case to embrace the lock in.
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A UserLinux manifesto Posted Dec 3, 2003 12:15 UTC (Wed) by Wol (guest, #4433) [Link] I was thinking exactly that ...Just leave the dinosaurs like Oracle alone. While we don't believe in "one task, one server", the reality is it pays. What happens if your Oracle is certified on RH-X, your D3 is certified on RH-Y, your mainframe app is certified on SuSE-Z, ad infinitum ... And if you've got a mission-critical app, you just leave it running on the supported box and that's it. The big problem is when you don't want to upgrade your app, and then the OS-vendor drops support for that rev... While, as a SuSE fan, I don't like this "certified for RH" lark, that is what the LSB is there to address, and as people move over to running Free Software or Open Source, the dinosaurs will just disappear. Take Oracle - at the moment it's marketing hot air keeping them afloat. DB2 is marketed far less agressively but is likely to start doing them some serious damage, and MySQL/PostgreSQL are likely to start taking noticeable chunks out of the pair of them before long. Let the dinosaurs stand tall. The mammals are raiding their nests :-) Cheers,
A UserLinux manifesto Posted Dec 3, 2003 19:48 UTC (Wed) by NAR (subscriber, #1313) [Link] And they have been traditionally slow to certify. Frustrating. Painful. But real.Proper testing takes a lot of time. I don't want to have my bank accounts on an OS/database pair that was tested for only two weeks...
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