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After you tip your hand...

After you tip your hand...

Posted Nov 21, 2003 16:25 UTC (Fri) by jhardin (guest, #3297)
In reply to: After you tip your hand... by nd
Parent article: Thomas Bushnell is no longer Hurd maintainer

> Why pollute GNU/Linux with proprietary trash?

Because there are not good Open Source solutions for all problem domains.

>> Linux will *never* take the desktop away from Microsoft
>> without proprietary applications
>
> Oh, yes, it will. ... as soon as the trash makers like you
> go out of their miserable business.

So you're saying that a vendor of a proprietary application package who wants very much to be able to provide that package on a Linux desktop is *bad* for Linux on the desktop? When, if we were able to provide our application on a Linux desktop, we would be able to offer a Linux user workstation to our clients as a product, thus increasing the adoption of Linux on the desktop by opening it to a market where it would otherwise not be an option?

> Good luck with Windows, kiddy.

Sadly we have no other alternative.

We *love* Linux and would dearly love to be able to ship our application package on it. We can't.

I am just saying that hostility towards proprietary applications that run on Linux is going to hinder adoption of Linux on the desktop. Can you rationally (e.g. without name calling and dogmatic blindness) argue that I am incorrect?


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After you tip your hand...

Posted Nov 21, 2003 22:26 UTC (Fri) by coriordan (subscriber, #7544) [Link]

> Can you rationally ... argue that I am incorrect?

Of course. Here's the root of your mistake:

> ...thus increasing the adoption of Linux...

You are starting from the incorrect assumtion that our goal is simple popularity.

"adoption of Linux" is not the goal (adoption of GNU/Linux is also not the goal). The goal is to allow people to use a computer in freedom. It's not important which Free Software operating system is the most popular. GNU/Linux is probably our best bet though, because it's freedom is mostly protected with copyleft licenses such as the GNU GPL.

If you can convince your company to release it's software under the GNU GPL, it would be a great contribution. You say that relicensing is not possible? Many great men have done what people previously said was impossible.

After you tip your hand...

Posted Nov 21, 2003 23:54 UTC (Fri) by jhardin (guest, #3297) [Link]

> You are starting from the incorrect assumtion that our goal
> is simple popularity.
...
> The goal is to allow people to use a computer in freedom.

Granted. Okay, we're not arguing the same argument, then.

Pax.

It seems nd's meds are a bit off.

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