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Lindows.com announces a 30,000 system deployment
Lindows.com has announced a large desktop Linux deployment in Canada.
"Lindows.com, in conjunction with the South West Shore Development Authority (SWSDA), is moving throughout Nova Scotia and other provinces to bring LindowsOS to the greater Canada area. It is expected that more than 30,000 LindowsOS machines will be deployed within one year of the initial deployments."
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Lindows.com announces a 30,000 system deployment Posted Nov 20, 2003 23:24 UTC (Thu) by mmarq (guest, #2332) [Link] Great...14,000 in Munich, 30,000 in Canada, "millions" in China, uncountable number in Brasil, and many much more arround the world... This can go on for many more years, and i bet with anyone that by the end of 2005 when the Longhorn gets out, that the majority of press, by the mean of "sponsered studies", still says that Windows still has 90% of the Desktop installed base... Couldn't there be a real independent study organization that could check on this to prevent market manipulation ?
Lindows.com announces a 30,000 system deployment Posted Nov 21, 2003 2:12 UTC (Fri) by dbhost (guest, #3461) [Link] Okay check this out. Microsoft Operating Systems / Office Suites are installed on a known quantity of big name boxes right? And they know how many white box copies of Winderz eXPee or whatnot they sell, and they know how much retail they do. They also assume, let's say 25% installed base pirated just for good measure. Linux, gets downloaded by user A, user A is a good, law abiding citizen who doesn't want to pirate software, so he burns 10 copies off and gives it to his friends, who in turn burn 10 copies off, and so on and so on like the old shampoo ad on TV. How many copies of Linux get registered anywhere? Chances are 10% of machines installed are actually counted somewhere like Linux Counter, or from the distribution. So how do we count? Web trackers? Well I can tell you if that's the case, according to my web server Linux + Mozilla has a 90+ percent installed base. And who can argue those numbers right?So to boil it down to basics, the big boys are going to brag their numbers up and trash talk the competition down. So what? In the mean time I STILL don't have the monthly major virus outbreaks. And forget software license tracking...
Lindows.com announces a 30,000 system deployment Posted Nov 21, 2003 2:30 UTC (Fri) by einstein (subscriber, #2052) [Link] LOL I run a fansite (nothing to do with linux) and according to our web server stats, linux users account for 56% of the hits on the site - just to put things in perspective...
Lindows.com announces a 30,000 system deployment Posted Nov 21, 2003 15:44 UTC (Fri) by acolyte (guest, #17081) [Link] I did a quick informal check on one of our archived access_logs for yesterday.wc -l access_log.1 4193831 grep -c MSIE access_log.1 4007633 grep -i linux access_log.1 5472 Now I knoe that this is not very exact, and it only reflects raw hits and not unique visitors, but it's still a sad thing.
Lindows.com announces a 30,000 system deployment Posted Nov 21, 2003 19:40 UTC (Fri) by mmarq (guest, #2332) [Link] But accounting that the majority of Linux deploiments, because of entreprise acceptance and the typical tech aware linux user, are most probably behind a firewall with NAT,... how can you be sure of the quantity of -"single machines"- connected to those gateways ?The majority of windows users are not behind no proper security because they were educated to be sheep ready to be sheared... so the propotion most probabily is not correct. And not to mention, most probabily (i dont know, i've to check), that modules like LSM and grsecurity have mechanisms to prevent OS fingerprinting...
Lindows.com announces a 30,000 system deployment Posted Nov 21, 2003 19:45 UTC (Fri) by mmarq (guest, #2332) [Link] Better, those routers with HUB + NAT so populer among small medium users and entreprises do not account as a Linux box ( even if they are running a derivative Linux code), do they ?
Lindows.com announces a 30,000 system deployment Posted Nov 21, 2003 16:37 UTC (Fri) by tjc (subscriber, #137) [Link] I'm currently working for an ISP, and we're getting about 1% of our hits from Linux systems.If it's any comfort, that's about 3 times as many as OS/2... :-|
Lindows.com announces a 30,000 system deployment Posted Nov 21, 2003 12:06 UTC (Fri) by sigmascape (guest, #17075) [Link] There is one way that is pretty reliable to give estimates of user OS... Google searches. Google tracks the user's operating system when a search is executed. I am almost 90% sure of this. :-)Mitch Featherston
Lindows.com announces a 30,000 system deployment Posted Nov 21, 2003 16:48 UTC (Fri) by pjs (guest, #10927) [Link] Here is the Google Zuitgeist (stats) page. Saddly, linux was 1% for September 2003, while the sum of the various Windows versions was 91%.
Lindows.com announces a 30,000 system deployment Posted Nov 21, 2003 17:59 UTC (Fri) by sigmascape (guest, #17075) [Link] Hey, its a flavour of Linux and I am glad to see Lindows making some headway.Mitch Featherston
Lindows.com announces a 30,000 system deployment Posted Nov 21, 2003 6:49 UTC (Fri) by purslow (guest, #8716) [Link] sorry to rain on the parade, but this is pure PR hype.the terminology is all wrong: eg "the greater Canada area" is meaningless; tests are "on-going", but also "successful". there's no mention of deployment except 4 freebie public-access sites in one of our poorest provinces. the new office will "work closely with the Canadian government", but no-one from that august body is quoted showing interest or otherwise. in fact, no real living Canadian seems to be quoted anywhere. there's been very little -- regretably -- re Linux & govt anywhere in Canada: we move slowly but surely up here in the freedom-loving north. i'ld love to see our new Ontario govt & Toronto admin favor open-source, but the lobbying has still to start & the debate to begin. meanwhile, in China, India, Brazil, Germany ...
Lindows.com announces a 30,000 system deployment Posted Nov 21, 2003 19:54 UTC (Fri) by mdekkers (guest, #85) [Link] I used to do a lot of work with FLOSS in Governments, and have had long and serious discussions with various Canadian Government officials around FLOSS. There is definite interest, and there are some people working on getting FLOSS in the door in Canada. The way IT provisioning is structured for the Canadian Government makes it highly likely that once the (lenghty) process of "checking it out" is succesfully passed, adoption will be relatively rapid and smooth. Don't give up just yet ;-)
Lindows.com announces a 30,000 system deployment Posted Nov 21, 2003 9:25 UTC (Fri) by Davey (guest, #17067) [Link] Lets hope they are promoting a good security policy these days.I beleive they advise users they can run as root, and that creating standard user accounts isnt needed. The only way Linux will remain secure is by proper education of system security. Do we really want the whole security framework being disregarded in this manner ?
Lindows.com announces a 30,000 system deployment Posted Nov 21, 2003 16:25 UTC (Fri) by XERC (guest, #14626) [Link] Well, it's difficult to count Operating System deployments. For instance, even if we exclude sights like www.microsoft.com, www.kernel.org, www.freebsd.org, www.aol.com, the sight visitors depend on the sight.Technical sights are probably more likely to be visited by free software geeks, hardware sights by hadware geeks(Yep, chip manufacturers still don't admit the existance of free software. Xlinix boasts with their ISE, but it used to run on wine, is closed software and is not even downloadable from their sight.). Some sort of pritney spears, Madonna or other stupid amusement's sights are more likely to have M$ Win(and lose) users. Not to mention the fact, that most of the business(wo)men use M$ Internet Explo(de)rer at work, as it's the defoult. And how many systems notify of it's operating system anyway?
Lindows.com announces a 30,000 system deployment Posted Nov 21, 2003 17:09 UTC (Fri) by tspuhler (guest, #17086) [Link] I am the administrator of a Choir WEB site running on Geocities and 99%are Windows clients with 95% using a version of IE. Sad! However, the statictics for the conducter page has many MAC users! (around 10+%)
Lindows.com announces a 30,000 system deployment Posted Nov 21, 2003 20:23 UTC (Fri) by borthner (guest, #4277) [Link] One other factor which skews web server logs - many browsers (as for example, Mozilla, Firebird, Opera, KHTML) allow the user to change the identification string sent out by the browser. One convenient way to gain access to brain-dead sites which want to limit access to MSIE browsers is to mimic the identification string of MSIE on Windows. I often have my Firebird set to show MSIE 6 on Windows XP because it is the only way I can access certain websites. Even when I'm running Linux, it looks to the web server logs as if I'm running Windows XP.
Get yourself counted Posted Nov 26, 2003 10:47 UTC (Wed) by csawtell (subscriber, #986) [Link] Please get yourself and your computers counted.http://counter.li.org/
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