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Thomas Bushnell removed from Hurd developmentThomas Bushnell removed from Hurd developmentPosted Nov 19, 2003 21:36 UTC (Wed) by ccchips (subscriber, #3222)In reply to: Thomas Bushnell removed from Hurd development by steven97 Parent article: Thomas Bushnell is no longer Hurd maintainer There are people who have been on this Earth and are here no longer who have brought about fundamental changes in human thought. Is Socrates a _has_been? Mohammed? Jesus? Buddha? I'm waiting to hear Stallman's side of the story, but meanwhile, I cannot stand by and watch name-calling without objecting. I hold RMS in the highest regard. I can still do that, even if he's a human being who makes mistakes just like all the rest of us. And until I hear his point of view on this, I can only opine, and leave it at that.
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Thomas Bushnell removed from Hurd development Posted Nov 19, 2003 22:40 UTC (Wed) by steven97 (guest, #2702) [Link] Is Newton a has-been? Not really. But surely in his time people must have felt he was, because from all the honory chairs and influential positions he held, he was blocking the creativity and freedom of other scientists of his era. Socrates is certainly a has-been, no doubt about it, he is dead. But his philosophy is not. He is more like a pillar supporting almost any western philosophy of the past two and a half millenium. But he never let his personal interest change his own philosophy (or he wouldn't have drunk the poison and instead have flead to Macedonia ;-). Religious figures, well, that's debatable... But, again, their philosophies are most definitely not dead. These religions don't need these men alive and kicking to continue to exist. RMS on the other hand has changed his philosophy. First he preached freedom and everything was good. Then he didn't like the way people were using their freedom, so he took some if it away again. And _that_ is why I think he is a has-been. Not his original philosophy of Free Software, definitely not. But the man should stop being a blocker of his own ideals. RMS should let go the community that he claims to have created, that supports and builds on his ideas and opinions. Instead, he dismisses the people who disagree with him. Much like Newton.
Thomas Bushnell removed from Hurd development Posted Nov 19, 2003 23:02 UTC (Wed) by tomsi (subscriber, #2306) [Link] Sorry if I sound like a troll:But he never let his personal interest change his own philosophy (or he wouldn't have drunk the poison and instead have flead to Macedonia ;-). What you say here about Socrates, but that is also how I have percieved Not that I like the sound of this variant of a licence. Tom
Thomas Bushnell removed from Hurd development Posted Nov 20, 2003 17:25 UTC (Thu) by gerv (subscriber, #3376) [Link] These religions don't need these men alive and kicking to continue to exist. Actually, Christianity is predicated on the fact that Jesus is alive today. If he were not, as Paul points out in his first letter to the Corinthians, the whole thing would be a waste of time. "And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins." (1 Cor 15:17, NIV). Jesus resurrection is key, because it proves he is God. Gerv
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