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Posted Nov 19, 2003 18:55 UTC (Wed) by sphealey (guest, #1028)
In reply to: Before this gets out of hand... by coriordan
Parent article: Thomas Bushnell is no longer Hurd maintainer

RMS defends the GFDL because it gives users all of the *useful* freedoms they need. The GPL also restricts certain actions, but only non-useful actions.
Interesting. Could you please direct me to the list of useful vs. non-useful freedoms? I would be interested in reading it. I would also be curious to know how such a list was developed.

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Posted Nov 19, 2003 19:30 UTC (Wed) by guan (subscriber, #13326) [Link]

No, I can't, but I can point out freedoms that are useful to developers but not to users. For example the freedom to distribute modified versions of a work. I think the keyword is users.

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Posted Nov 19, 2003 20:36 UTC (Wed) by ccchips (guest, #3222) [Link]

And I become a developer how?

My reading of the GPL is that as soon as I modify a GPL'd product and then distribute my modified binary, I must also make the modifications available to the recipients. Thus, I become a developer just by making the binary available to others.

If I eat a meal, I'm a diner. As soon as I cook the meal, I'm a cook. That seems to be all it takes. Cooks have recipes, and Richard loves that metaphor. So there you have it.

How is the GFDL going to restrict me, as a user who made a change to the documented program, and wants to distribute my changes in documentation as well as source code?

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Posted Nov 20, 2003 1:30 UTC (Thu) by Ross (subscriber, #4065) [Link]

Stop. I thought that the GNU project considered all users as potential
programmers and that was the reason behind the GPL. That nobody could
restricted from acting as a developer and forced to act as a mere
consumer of goods.

Maybe I'm wrong. But to me the GFDL does not preserve all useful rights.

I wouldn't care about it if the license was not coming from the FSF. The
problem is that it is being touted as a complimentary license to the GPL
to use on documentation for Free Software projects. But that makes the
documentation considerably less free than the software it describes.

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