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Federal judiciary to move to Linux
While federal judges are considering the future of Linux in Delaware and Utah courts, the judiciary's administrative offices are switching to Linux. A company called PEC Solutions has sent out a press release stating that it has won the contract to do the conversion. "PEC will support the transition of the Judiciary's
mission-sensitive applications, including case management, finance and
accounting, probation and pretrial services, and case-tracking
management systems to the Linux standard."
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Federal judiciary to move to Linux Posted Nov 19, 2003 16:03 UTC (Wed) by ccchips (guest, #3222) [Link] So, SCO is going to sue the judges?
Federal judiciary to move to Linux Posted Nov 19, 2003 16:35 UTC (Wed) by rriggs (subscriber, #11598) [Link] Their strategic plan calls for a suit against the entire Federal Judiciary in 2009. It will be heard in the House of Representatives, the only place where a fair and balanced verdict can be rendered in this case.
Federal judiciary to move to Linux Posted Nov 19, 2003 17:11 UTC (Wed) by rknop (guest, #66) [Link] If you want a fair and balanced trial, it probably ought to be done on a Fox TV "reality" show rather than in Congress!-Rob
Federal judiciary to move to Linux Posted Nov 19, 2003 17:42 UTC (Wed) by hazelsct (subscriber, #3659) [Link] And of course with Al Franken presiding as judge!
Federal judiciary to move to Linux Posted Nov 19, 2003 18:10 UTC (Wed) by mmarq (guest, #2332) [Link] Just another breath of that good "crack stuff" from their masters, and SCO is ready to sue anything and anyone that remotly resembles being using computer code!...So they'll sue the judjes, the congress, the NSA, any type of goverment agengy in every country that has publicly embraced Linux, IBM, NOVEL, Linux developers and users, BSD developers and users, Microsoft... Ooops... Microsoft no! Why? A good dog dont bite the hand of his master, does he ? Talking about BSD, hang on tight so you dont fall from the chair: (hmmm... wouldn't it be wonderfull, if someone convinces Crack nut Mcbride to actualy sue the DOD and its great "Ultimatum peace keeper" the Donald Rumsfeld,... acutualy they are open and ostensivly using Linux!... that would be a chock and woe campaign that i wouldn't mind to watch)
Federal judiciary to move to Linux Posted Nov 20, 2003 3:19 UTC (Thu) by Eudyptes (guest, #15589) [Link] "So they'll sue the judjes, the congress, the NSA, any type of goverment <br>agengy in every country that has publicly embraced Linux..." <br> <br>Hmmm, the NSA? Headlines read: "The CEO of Santa Cruz Operations (also <br>known as SCO), Darl McBride, has been reported missing". <br> <br>Last reports of the SCO executives where abouts were that he was last seen <br>by his wife when he left for work this morning. Further reports by <br>employees of The SCO Group state that they became aware of a problems when <br>McBride failed to show for a scheduled press conference. Authorities <br>state they have little evidence to base their investigation on since <br>material evidence is all but non-existant. <br> <br>In an unrelated story IT administrators for the Federal Judiciary are <br>unable to explain a missing blocks of archived emails for the entire week. <br>(meanwhile an NSA operative snickers). <br> <br>In other news both Microsoft and SCO stock prices plummeted do to a <br>massive sell off and profit taking by share holders. <br> <br>Ok, ok,...I know! One can dream can't they? <br> <br>
Too scared to help Posted Nov 20, 2003 21:49 UTC (Thu) by fLameDogg (guest, #11305) [Link] I was going to helpfully repost your interesting comments as rendered HTML, but then I was seized by the sudden fear that your post might be covered by the GFDL.
Federal judiciary to move to Linux Posted Nov 19, 2003 16:39 UTC (Wed) by allesfresser (subscriber, #216) [Link] I don't know if the administrative parts of the judicial system are connected at all with the actual cases they handle, but it would seem that the federal courts don't have much confidence in the substance of SCO's case, if they're willing to publicly announce that they're using the very software that's being attacked in a case they're handling.
Federal judiciary to move to Linux Posted Nov 19, 2003 17:08 UTC (Wed) by cpm (guest, #3554) [Link] I can't imagine how they would even be aware of it at all.Even so, I think it was PEC, not the Federal Judiciary that announced the move. There is a really good chance that PEC has not informed the Federal Judiciary that SCO owns linux :-)
Federal judiciary to move to Linux Posted Nov 19, 2003 17:26 UTC (Wed) by dbhost (guest, #3461) [Link] True, but the Federal Judiciary DOES know that it is buying Linux products and services, they are also keenly aware, or should be, that they are handling lawsuits directly involving Linux products and services. The courts, while not immune to error, aren't likely to go about using products or services that they have a reasonable expectation of being illegal. Thus it would be reasonably assumed that the Federal judiciary does not see the SCO case as able to hold water...
Federal judiciary to move to Linux Posted Nov 19, 2003 18:28 UTC (Wed) by sphealey (guest, #1028) [Link] Um, I think you underestimate how large the US federal government is, how large just the judicial branch is as a subset of the USG, how slow procurement can be in a large organization, and how little legal issues affect operations and purchasing decisions in same.I worked for a corporation that was fairly large but probably 1/25th the size of the Judicial Branch. We would hear all the time that some product we were buying was involved in some sort of litigation (usually patent). We would totally ignore such rumours and specify/buy what was best for the business (or at least the purchasing agent's Christmas gift from the vendors), figuring (correctly) that the Legal Dept would handle the lawsuits and it wouldn't affect us. This is probably a response to a decision/requistion from 3 years ago when SCO was still selling Linux. sPh
Federal judiciary to move to Linux Posted Nov 19, 2003 18:52 UTC (Wed) by allesfresser (subscriber, #216) [Link] I think that's a very good point (that it's probably a result of a decision made many months ago.) The wheels of procurement grind slowly in any large organization and especially one as conservative as the federal judiciary. All the same, they do have a peculiar interest in staying legally clean, don't they? I still think they've got a safe bet that SCO is full of... well, you know. :-)
Federal judiciary to move to Linux Posted Nov 19, 2003 18:53 UTC (Wed) by mmarq (guest, #2332) [Link] "We would hear all the time that some product we were buying was involved in some sort of litigation (usually patent). We would totally ignore such rumours and specify/buy what was best for the business."Did your employer received threatening letters about those possible litigations ? In the actual SCO case , it seems to me, that part of the press, SCO leadership, and some other operators in the IT world and in the financial world, are doing everything possible to inflate FUD... So, at least, is going to be much harder to just ignore them, not to say that judjes are human and can be influenced too. In the end Linux/FOSS will win, but in the meanwhile it needs the efforts of everybody, because the forces against it(Linux/FOSS) are far greater than SCO. Mario Marques
Federal judiciary to move to Linux Posted Nov 19, 2003 19:23 UTC (Wed) by sphealey (guest, #1028) [Link] Did your employer received threatening letters about those possible litigations ?Yes, every day. It was a big company. If they came in to the end user of the product, we sent them to Legal. 99.95% of the time a counter-bark letter from Legal solved the problem. 0.05% of the time there was a legitimate dispute over the claim. I don't know what the actual percentage of times we had to pay anyone was, but I would guess something like 0.001% of all letters received. That's why I find some of SCO's comments mildly amusing - semi-non-threatening letters arrive by the metric ton at corporations all over the US every week. Companies know how to handle them.sPh
Federal judiciary to move to Linux Posted Nov 20, 2003 0:29 UTC (Thu) by mmarq (guest, #2332) [Link] I had no doubt that SCO was bluffing all the time... and i'm sure that they missed concerning to frighten Linux/FOSS developers too...But you have to agree with me that is not easy for medium to small entreprises, and some large ones to, without "decent" legal departments, to have to take with SCO barking trougth their masters FUD press arrangements, several times a week, every week! I belive that there were already historys about users trying to pay those licences and SCO somehow refusing!... so its obvious that they only want those freightened entreprises to go buy software somewhere else than Linux... and that is what is completly obnoxious.
Federal judiciary to move to Linux Posted Nov 19, 2003 17:46 UTC (Wed) by dsime (guest, #5764) [Link] OK so who is going to have to recuse (sp?) themselves over this one?
Federal judiciary to move to Linux Posted Nov 19, 2003 19:46 UTC (Wed) by jeremiah (subscriber, #1221) [Link] I work for a judiciary vendor, and try to push linux into court's offices as much as possible. What I have found, is that most people [court tech staff] aren't even aware of the lawsuit, or Linux for that matter. Their so busy running around fixing peoples pc, that this stuff really hasn't hit their radar yet. The vendors aren't really pushing Linux either. It's their job to push the applications, not the OS. Esp if the OS is windows, where no sales pitch is needed, since it's the default.
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