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Innovation Loses If Open Source Wins (LinuxInsider)

Innovation Loses If Open Source Wins (LinuxInsider)

Posted Nov 18, 2003 0:02 UTC (Tue) by XERC (guest, #14626)
In reply to: Innovation Loses If Open Source Wins (LinuxInsider) by emkey
Parent article: Innovation Loses If Open Source Wins (LinuxInsider)

From technological point of view and from financial point of view they were laging far behind the west, but I as an estonian(and while Estonia was occupied by Soviet Union, I was a sitezen of the former Soviet Union) think, that maninly the Soviet Union collapsed because of various social processes. I'm not a historian, so I could pretty easily be mistaken here.
They just couldn't control enough.

It's sad, that communism didn't collapse in China. I don't know about the Chinese, but I guess, that in their case, it's also just the combination of their culture and bad coinsidences with social processes, what is keeping the communism "up and running" there.


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Innovation Loses If Open Source Wins (LinuxInsider)

Posted Nov 18, 2003 10:21 UTC (Tue) by fergal (guest, #602) [Link] (3 responses)

Actually I think it's now rampant cut throat capitalism that's keeping """""communism""""" (still not enough quotes) going in China!

Innovation Loses If Open Source Wins (LinuxInsider)

Posted Nov 18, 2003 18:24 UTC (Tue) by XERC (guest, #14626) [Link] (2 responses)

I don't know, may be You are right, but I defenately don't complain about the capitalism in northern European countries, Norway, Sweden, Finland.
Only thing, that's worring me, is the patenting stuff. I'm glad, that Estonia joined the European Union, because we need it for our national security's point of view(we have Russia as a nabour) but, as an estonian, I'm also glad, that Sweden didn't join the EU, because that gives them a possibilety to avoid much of the EU corruption and lobbying.

I don't know, if the Swedish have software patents, I tend to remember(halloween documents may-be?) that they do tend to love Micro$oft much more, than the French, but if they don't have software patents then one can hold one's fingers cross for that it stayed this way.

Have You ever composed a list of countries, where You would like to live the most? It's difficult, because one just doesn't know all the legal details, but I gues, that I would consider the following:

best)
Germany and European Union in general, excluding Poland because of
their bad health system and excluding Italy because they are too
close to Sicilia and that has it's influenses.

second best and the best after the EU has legalized software patents)
May be one from this group of countries: Sweden, Norway, Island, Australia

third best) Canada, United Kingdom
It seem's to have a lot of space, it's not overcrowded and has
beutiful, cool, nature withought many highly venomous creatures.
Unfortunately it's too close to the United States and I don't know about the patentabilety and death sentences. I think, that politically Canada does what ever U.$.A. wants it to do, so Canada doesn't seem to be independent enough.

fourth best) Japan, South Korea, Hong-Kong,
Japan has a problem wiht death sentences and patentabilety(just like the U.$.A.). I don't mind that they find that the only right way to work is to work for only one company for ones whole life. It's because of their culture and they are very conservative people. I guess, that they will start accepting "moving workforce" somewhere in the near future.


worst)
U.$.A., Russia, China, North Corea,
No comments needed, but I can point out, that one of the reasons is, that U.$.A. is still using death sentences, which are, thank god, forbidden in the EU. Having death sentences forbidden is even as a precondition to any country, who want's to join the EU. Naturally I hate the "all patentabilety". I wish, that no patents existed. The absence of patents has it's own drawbacks, and there was a very interasting discussion on the lwn.net about patents, but, I guess, that with the help of some lwn.net readers/posters I found a solution to that. ...I'm too lazy to put a long text here to describe the solution...

second worst or worst)
Arabic countries and middle Africa, because they use death senteces and they do it by stoning. The Afirca is also bad because of the insanity of their leaders: the region is poor and any workforce is really vital, but some leaders chop hands off from 22000 citizens!!! Not to mention, it's inhumane. Another problem there is the lazy culture and AIDS epidemic. Actually, I don't like to live among all those venomous or othervise dangerous creatures eather.

third worst) India?? Mexico?? South America?? I don't know much about India or those other reagions, but India seem's to be overcrowded and poor. I don't know their attitude to death sentences or how, if at all, they execute them.

Innovation Loses If Open Source Wins (LinuxInsider)

Posted Nov 18, 2003 18:51 UTC (Tue) by bex (guest, #16960) [Link] (1 responses)

As far as i know canada doesn't have the death sentance. I'm not sure about the patents though.
I do know that canada is just about the most anti-american nation in the world though so i doubt very much that they're very influenced (apart from some culture) by america.
In fact I seem to remember a news report that the governments spokeswoman publicly insulted george bush over the iraq war.
Again, i don't have all the facts but i can't be that far off :)

Innovation Loses If Open Source Wins (LinuxInsider)

Posted Nov 18, 2003 19:53 UTC (Tue) by emkey (guest, #144) [Link]

If a muderer is dead they will never kill another person. For second offenses I'd just as soon have them removed from the gene pool so that some other likely innocent person die.


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