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....speaking of good distribution names...

....speaking of good distribution names...

Posted Nov 16, 2003 5:40 UTC (Sun) by coriordan (guest, #7544)
In reply to: ....speaking of bad distribution names... by frazier
Parent article: Sun's Linux desktop off to flying start (Register)

gnUserLinux:
Wow, I'm impressed.

Nice show of integrity in an environment where corporations are pressuring us to hide the founding philosophy of our OS.

How to pronouce?
I'd suspect g-n-user-linux? (or guh-nooser-linux? first one sounds better)

I hadn't heard of the gnUserLinux name. (Google and altavista haven't heard of it either yet.)

Thanks Bruce.


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....speaking of distribution names...

Posted Nov 16, 2003 9:41 UTC (Sun) by frazier (guest, #3060) [Link]

How to pronouce? I'd suspect g-n-user-linux? (or guh-nooser-linux? first one sounds better)
...and there's my point in a nutshell. Even the people who get the whole 'GNU' factor aren't at home with this name at a glance. Some of the users this is potentially targeted towards (migrating from proprietary OSs) don't get the GNU at all. 'gnUserLinux' does not bring home the "GNU", nor does it make for a decent general name. Call it "User GNU/Linux", call it "Mainstream GNU/Linux", call it whatever, but please spare the world a gnUserLinux or UserLiGNUx. If you want to sneak a GNU in there to avoid GNU/Linux name confusion with people going "is this Linux or not", consider something like "MagnumLinux".

Debian handles the GNU/Linux issue very well, and heck, has a pronouncable name too ("Debian"). The homepage reads:

Debian is a free operating system (OS) for your computer. An operating system is the set of basic programs and utilities that make your computer run. Debian uses the Linux kernel (the core of an operating system), but most of the basic OS tools come from the GNU project; hence the name GNU/Linux.
A weak name will hurt adoption, more than it should, unfortunately. In a corportate environment things have to marketed to management like anything else. This is easier to accomplish with a more accessable name.

....speaking of distribution names...

Posted Nov 16, 2003 10:20 UTC (Sun) by coriordan (guest, #7544) [Link]

How about: GoLinux! (gnu on linux)

"User GNU/Linux" might be untrademarkable, since all three words are either in common use or already trademarked. I don't know.

I think g-n-user-linux is good though. The capital U should stop people calling it guh-nooser-linux.

It's certainly not easy to find a catchy name with gnu and linux in it. Debians approach is very good indeed.

GoLinux!

Posted Nov 16, 2003 14:53 UTC (Sun) by vblum (guest, #1151) [Link]

Nice! And it's even a recursive acronym (Gnu's not Unix on Linux! ???)

....speaking of distribution names...

Posted Nov 16, 2003 16:21 UTC (Sun) by vblum (guest, #1151) [Link]

oh well .... no. 82 on the distributions page ...

....speaking of distribution names...

Posted Nov 16, 2003 22:41 UTC (Sun) by frazier (guest, #3060) [Link]

I like GoLinux... ...easy to pronounce, easy to remember. An excellent idea.

As was mentioned, there's a Go!Linux at #82 on the LWN distributions list, but it looks dead.

Here's what http://www.golinux.de says translated to English via Babelfish:

Welcomely on the Website by Helmut Franz

This side is operated privately and contains no commercial interests. It is at present still present in the structure.

If you want to step with me into contact, for this the email address helmut.franz@accendo.de is to you at the disposal.

Far contact contacts find you under the menu option contact

In a nutshell, there's no active Go!Linux there. The LWN description for Go!Linux says:
Comes with PC!Linux magazine. German.
GoLinux is being used as a migration-related resource from tux.org. http://www.golinux.ch/ is a small resource looking independent of tux.org and Go!Linux.

The worst thing I've run across so far about GoLinux is GoLinux.com which is a souless links page but does have links to Linux stuff which may or may not make it fair game under the guidelines of Linux International.

I like the GoLinux name. If GoLinux.com could be secured and whatever naming conflicts could be resolved (not sure about the domain but given the nature of the active GoLinux sites I can see that being a doable task) that would be a nice, marketable, pronounable, usable, GNUable name.

I've obtained blessing for a now long defunct Linux name from LI in the past... ...Jon "Maddog" Hall was great to work with. Don't know exactly what their policy is on situations like GoLinux.com above, though.

If anything else, there's gotta be another name out there (rememberable, readily pronouncable, internally marketable to non-technical people without them thinking "how good can something be with a name like that?"). GoLinux is short, memorable, positive, and easily said. These are good things.

....speaking of distribution names...

Posted Nov 16, 2003 23:37 UTC (Sun) by frazier (guest, #3060) [Link]

Along the lines of GoLinux would be GoldLinux (GNU On Linux Distribution).

The .com, .net, .org domains are there, too. A quick Google shows a lack of conflicts, there's Accelerated-X Summit Line DX - Gold Edition Linux Demos and there appears to be a discontinued or renamed web hosting product from Intuity Networks called GoldLinux.

Not as catchy as GoLinux in my book, but certainly usable, pronouncable, and might be a reasonable candidate for a sanctioned trademark from Linux International (of course, that's up to them as the agent of the Linux Trademark). On the surface there appears to be few if any current uses of the name.

....speaking of good distribution names...

Posted Nov 16, 2003 17:45 UTC (Sun) by BrucePerens (guest, #2510) [Link]

It's pronounced "User Linux" the gn is silent, but present in the written form. It's GNU Linux with the user in the middle. That seemed appropriate.

Bruce

....speaking of good distribution names...

Posted Nov 16, 2003 23:34 UTC (Sun) by vblum (guest, #1151) [Link]

If this is going to be end-user marketable, as it is supposed to be: I really fear not many in
the targeted audience will understand the gnUser concept, much less pronounciation.

My fear is, _if_ it ever gets successful, it will easily be dubbed LoserLinux, loserGnInux or
the likes. That's the problem with the rhyme plus the L in the name. (for an analogy see
Windoze ...)

Sorry about this, I mean neither disrespect nor destructive criticism - I really welcome the
effort, but Ciaran's GoLinux above would be a much more catchy, safer choice ...

best of luck with the project

V.

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