OSDL pays Linus's legal bills
| From: | "Craig Oda" <coda-AT-pageonepr.com> | |
| To: | <corbet-AT-lwn.net> | |
| Subject: | OSDL to Fund Linus Torvalds Legal Representation | |
| Date: | Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:18:51 -0800 |
OSDL TO FUND LINUS TORVALDS LEGAL REPRESENTATION IN SCO LITIGATION Leading Linux advocacy consortium will pay legal costs of OSDL Fellow Torvalds and other Lab employees involved in SCO litigation BEAVERTON, Ore. - November 14, 2003 - The Open Source Development Labs (OSDL), a global consortium of leading technology companies dedicated to accelerating the adoption of Linux, today announced that both OSDL and Linux creator Linus Torvalds had received subpoenas on Wednesday from attorneys for The SCO Group. The subpoenas were issued in The SCO Group's pending litigation with IBM. The subpoenas request that OSDL and Torvalds produce documents for use in that dispute. OSDL has agreed to fund legal representation for Torvalds and any other employees of the Lab who may become involved in the litigation. OSDL is represented by AterWynne LLP. About The Open Source Development Labs (OSDL) OSDL - home to Linus Torvalds, the creator of Linux - is dedicated to accelerating the growth and adoption of Linux in the enterprise. Founded in 2000 and supported by a global consortium of IT industry leaders, OSDL is a non-profit organization that provides state-of the-art computing and test facilities in the United States and Japan available to developers around the world. OSDL members include Alcatel, Cisco, Computer Associates, Dell, Ericsson, Force Computers, Fujitsu, HP, Hitachi, IBM, Intel, Linuxcare, Miracle Linux Corporation, Mitsubishi Electric, MontaVista Software, NEC Corporation, Nokia, NTT Comware, NTT DATA INTELLILINK, Red Hat, Sun Microsystems, Sun Microsystems, SUSE LINUX, TimeSys, Toshiba, Transmeta Corporation, Turbolinux, Ulticom, Unilever and VA Software. Visit OSDL on the Web at www.osdl.org . ### OSDL is a trademark of Open Source Development Labs, Inc. Linux is a trademark of Linus Torvalds. Third party marks and brands are the property of their respective holders. FOR MORE INFORMATION: Lonn Johnston for OSDL Page One PR +1 650-473-0600 x101 lonn-AT-pageonepr.com
Posted Nov 14, 2003 18:22 UTC (Fri)
by andrel (guest, #5166)
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Posted Nov 14, 2003 18:35 UTC (Fri)
by dr_lha (guest, #86)
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Posted Nov 16, 2003 17:35 UTC (Sun)
by BrucePerens (guest, #2510)
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Bruce
Posted Nov 17, 2003 22:25 UTC (Mon)
by emk (subscriber, #1128)
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Eben Moglen (FSF's attorney) and I both serve as expert witnesses and I had the opportunity to depose him recently - in a case you never heard of and probably never will. He handled it very well. Moglen is a former Supreme Court clerk (for Thurgood Marshall, I believe), a respected professor of law at Columbia, and a world-class expert in free software and open source licenses. He's charismatic, well-spoken, and knows copyright law very well. He's just about the last person I'd want to tangle with in a copyright infringement case.
Posted Nov 14, 2003 23:51 UTC (Fri)
by mmarq (guest, #2332)
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Couldn't they accept a digital record ?... no ? Some supplier of paper is going to be very happy!
Posted Nov 15, 2003 0:08 UTC (Sat)
by mmarq (guest, #2332)
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A stupid thing that i just writen, Linux is open-source and so SCO could copy at will... if they havent done that by now!... or anybody else!... The all matter is already too confusing, to say the least, even more trying to think in a SCO logic... sorry.
Posted Nov 15, 2003 3:10 UTC (Sat)
by XERC (guest, #14626)
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Posted Nov 15, 2003 3:42 UTC (Sat)
by mmarq (guest, #2332)
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You mean accusing the stolen opponent victims of stealing... "guess" SCO is going to set the records odd to anyone!
Posted Nov 19, 2003 9:59 UTC (Wed)
by angdraug (subscriber, #7487)
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P.S. While I agree that Russian state is being run by criminals, I believe it is unfair to repititively attack Russians while most other states and many large companies are run by criminals, as well. Not to mention that to punish Russian nationals for crimes commited by a Russian state is a crime of its own. P.P.S. The quote that you attribute to Russian diplomacy actually belongs to Gebbels. Know your sources.
Posted Nov 15, 2003 12:48 UTC (Sat)
by rknop (guest, #66)
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This is a real problem with our legal system, especially the system of civil law; the cost of entry is huge. If you're an individual (or, often, even a small company), you either have to find a patron or you have to give in to whatever bullying request is made. (Yeah, I realize a subpoena isn't a legal action against the person subpoenaed, but my point nonetheless stands.) -Rob
Posted Nov 15, 2003 22:32 UTC (Sat)
by XERC (guest, #14626)
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Has anybody offered to cover Richard's legal bills?
What about RMS?
I believe the FSF has legal counsel, so RMS should be well respresented.
What about RMS?
Eben Moglen (FSF's attorney) and I both serve as expert witnesses and I had the opportunity to depose him recently - in a case you never heard of and probably never will. He handled it very well. No doubt Richard will be well-prepared.What about RMS?
What about RMS?
"The OSDL pays Linus's legal bills
subpoenas request that OSDL and Torvalds produce documents for use in that
dispute. "
hmmm,... the all history with source code of all patches submited to Linus, in actual physical paper support ?
(Althought it could be a very good ideia,..., just imagine SCO trying to steal some actual code from a paper record!!)
"just imagine SCO trying to steal some actual code from a paper record"OSDL pays Linus's legal bills
Just like the Russian diplomacy: tell your opponent such a big and obvious lie, which is such a big and obvious nonsance, taht your opponent is totally shocked and doesn't have any words left to answer it. OSDL pays Linus's legal bills
Where do I know? Well, I live in Estonia and The Russian Federation(former and future Soviet Union) is our big eastern nabour. By the way, the same criminals, that led the Russia during the Soviet times, are pretty much still in the same leading positions, the changes are rather formal and The Russian Federation even swiched back to the hymn of the former Soviet Union.
So, if you hear the hymn of the Russian Federation, it will be the exactly the same, that was used during the cold war. Graduations!
"tell your opponent such a big and obvious lie, which is such a big and obvious nonsance..."OSDL pays Linus's legal bills
This is a site about Linux, can you please restrain from off-topic hate speech?Offtopic
*SCO* should pay the legal costs! They're the ones who have the BS case, and the ones who issued the subpoena.OSDL pays Linus's legal bills
Well, it's a money based society, where dog eat's dog. After all, that's what people cohose, when they went to elections. I guess, that the election results, where Arnold get's to be the governer, illustrates the trends well enough, so, it's the american dream.....(what ever that is?).
OSDL pays Linus's legal bills
Hey, by the way, how is "The American Dream" defined anyway??? The term gets used pretty often, but I still don't know the meaning of it.
By calling U.S.A. a money based society, I don't state, that communism would be a good idea. I just reference to the trend, that all good and ethical is tossed aside when tossing it aside becomes profitable enough(talking about Mico$__t, SCO, the DMCA abusers, RIAA, vendors of proprietary software, all patetabilety and everything related, heavy restrictions on copying books, etc.).
And in the end, the europeans and the japaneese look at the U.$.A. as a good model to follow: all patenabilety in Japan and may-be also in Europe, propritary software, etc. Even the Micro$h__t admited in it's halloween documents, that all the new and innovative is first implemented on free plathforms and then, later, if ever, on their Win___$. Not to mention,
that FFTW(to name a few) is part of a whole scientific REASEARCH!!!.