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Deadline scheduling: coming soon?
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ACPI for ARM?
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In any case, it's all very fitting, given the context.
I'm sure Mark will love reading LWN today. Will help to nurture his siege mentality.
Stross: The regular holy war...
Posted Oct 21, 2013 11:30 UTC (Mon) by GhePeU (subscriber, #56133)
Posted Oct 21, 2013 14:03 UTC (Mon) by deepfire (subscriber, #26138)
Posted Oct 21, 2013 14:45 UTC (Mon) by pboddie (guest, #50784)
That Ubuntu figures out which proprietary payloads are required by the hateful consumer hardware of the era is one thing - although I think that general hardware support in Linux has very much been the tide that has raised all boats in this respect - but the Unity plus Ubuntu services strategy is what Canonical have been betting on, and I don't think it's really managing to respond to the competition.
I recently had the opportunity to try out Linux Mint KDE Edition, having accepted the inevitability of KDE 4, and it manages to deliver an experience that is as coherent as the underlying technology will allow. Indeed, if you consider what Ubuntu set out to do (and largely accomplished), Mint is very much the new Ubuntu, measured against the goals of Ubuntu at its inception. If Shuttleworth had a space-faring, Linux-supporting nemesis, that nemesis would be pouring money into Mint just to frustrate his rival and show him how it is supposed to be done.
As for Stross not liking Unity specifically, the major Free Software desktop developers have to stop imitating the Microsoft and Apple fads of the day and find their own voice. Ubuntu Mobile's slide-on panel seems to be very similar to an absurd Windows 8 feature, for example, but even if it turns out that Microsoft copied the idea from Ubuntu, the fact that Microsoft has "validated" the idea should be reason enough for concern given the general incoherence and atrociousness of Microsoft's recent user interface work judged even against their historically poor standards. And KDE 4 and GNOME apparently imitating Vista and Mac OS X should be regarded in the same way.
Posted Oct 22, 2013 6:33 UTC (Tue) by Rehdon (guest, #45440)
Posted Oct 22, 2013 12:55 UTC (Tue) by pboddie (guest, #50784)
In fact, I only just now figured out how to restore the desktop functionality, mostly because the KDE 3 settings did actually get honoured in the migration I did on my computer - nice to know, given that this kind of thing was fraught with problems in the past - meaning that I now know which special moves are required when helping others whose desktops have been set up with the defaults for KDE 4.
(Apparently, my desktop layout is "Desktop" whereas others presumably have something else, and then they need to use "Folder View" widgets which one has to drag from that annoying horizontally scrolling panel that looks as if it's only providing panel widgets. Yes, once one gets to find these things out for oneself, things get gradually less frustrating, but none of this makes the experience an easy sell for most people, and it also doesn't help that most of the online help for KDE stopped being updated in 2005 for KDE 3, or that's the impression I get.)
Posted Oct 22, 2013 16:46 UTC (Tue) by iabervon (subscriber, #722)
The very idea that desktop and mobile environments should converge is questionable and has only caused trouble to Linux desktop, as far as I can see.
Not true! It's also caused trouble to Windows and the web. (I know, not what you meant.) But I really feel like Apple managed to give everyone the idea that the way of the future was convergence, and then watched their competitors screw up while Apple shared a few small things between environments when it was appropriate.
Posted Oct 22, 2013 17:48 UTC (Tue) by Rehdon (guest, #45440)
Posted Oct 22, 2013 19:08 UTC (Tue) by Rehdon (guest, #45440)
Posted Oct 23, 2013 12:13 UTC (Wed) by ewan (subscriber, #5533)
Posted Oct 24, 2013 9:38 UTC (Thu) by Rehdon (guest, #45440)
Posted Oct 23, 2013 16:53 UTC (Wed) by rahvin (subscriber, #16953)
This is what happens when your CEO's follow wall street too much.
Posted Oct 21, 2013 14:59 UTC (Mon) by drag (subscriber, #31333)
This is a _good_ thing. There is already too much going on in the world, creating drama for the sake of drama is not really useful for anybody.
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