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Time to move from Red Hat to Debian?

Time to move from Red Hat to Debian?

Posted Nov 6, 2003 15:33 UTC (Thu) by dmantione (guest, #4640)
In reply to: Time to move from Red Hat to Debian? by debacle
Parent article: Time to move from Red Hat to Debian?


> I thought about trying Mandrake. But no way:
> - I cannot install it on my router/printserver (486) - no problem with Debian.

Small computers are the future of the world :) Installing Mandrake on a 486 is very hard
indeed. Realistically speaking though, Linux has become too bulky for a 486. Not that it's
not possible.

> - Many packages that are important to me are not available for
> Mandrake. Yes, there are 3rd party RPMs, but if I have problems,
> I cannot report them to Mandrake, because it's 3rd party. No
> problem with Debian, because everything's there.

No you report them to the Mandrake community. Mandrake (just like Debian) is
community oriented. You cannot report it to the *company* Mandrake, but there is no
company called Debian either.

While this comment does not make sense from the eyes of the Debian user, for a Red
Hat user, your arguments make sense and advise both against Mandrake and Debian.

>- I was not able to find Mandrake for the arm or for the alpha
> platform. Mandrake seems not to care about non-i586 platforms.
> No problem with Debian.

Still on the moon, I see. Come back to earth and visit:

ftp://ftp.club-internet.fr/pub/linux/Mandrake-devel/cooker

It's installed on my Alpha!

> The very good integration of all packages, the strict packaging
> policy,

This is indeed wel done on Debian.

> the freedom of choosing different hardware

??? Sorry, no offense, but Debian is the distribition that is most behind on the hardware
front.

> , the freedom of
> using a lot of packages, that are really part of the distribution,

> and tools like debconf all give good reasons to choose Debian.

Primitive...

> It's not only apt-get!

Good, that was the point. Actually, I'm not so much a Mandrake user, I install SuSE on
most systems. I also maintain a Debian system. And my little Alpha runs Mandrake.

But for Red Hat users, Mandrake looks a good possibility to me.


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Time to move from Red Hat to Debian?

Posted Nov 6, 2003 16:02 UTC (Thu) by rfunk (subscriber, #4054) [Link]

> ??? Sorry, no offense, but Debian is the distribition that is most
behind on the hardware front.

Eh? Most distributions, Red Hat included, are single-architecture (x86).
Debian runs on at least half a dozen architectures.... sparc, PPC, ARM,
alpha, m86k (ugh)....

Time to move from Red Hat to Debian?

Posted Nov 6, 2003 16:23 UTC (Thu) by tjc (guest, #137) [Link]

A couple more:

ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/unstable/main/

Time to move from Red Hat to Debian?

Posted Nov 6, 2003 17:04 UTC (Thu) by dmantione (guest, #4640) [Link]

Try to get 3d hardware acceleration out of a Radeon 8500 on Debian stable. The card is
on the market for years now. I know someone who tried it very hard and went as far as
manually compiling XFree86 4.3 and in the end switched to SuSE to make it work, out of
the box without any configuration effort at all. That is what I meant and it's not just video
cards. Another big issue is that to be able to anything serious with hardware at all you
have to replace the default 2.2 kernel with a 2.4 one. This is something no other
distribution requires it's users do to.

Again, no offense. Debian has strong points, but these are critical issues Debian needs
to solve.

Time to move from Red Hat to Debian?

Posted Nov 6, 2003 20:04 UTC (Thu) by proski (subscriber, #104) [Link]

I'm using a separate repository to get XFree86 4.3. There are several independent Debian repositories on http://apt-get.org/

Time to move from Red Hat to Debian?

Posted Nov 7, 2003 15:34 UTC (Fri) by lacostej (subscriber, #2760) [Link]

Debian stable is not meant for the desktop. It's for servers.
you want latest packages, use other backported sources or use testing/unstable.

I run unstable on my desktops/laptops. No problem.

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