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But... a simple charge for lying to congress sure would be nice. Perjury or contempt of congress.
Posted Oct 8, 2013 0:22 UTC (Tue) by filteredperception (guest, #5692)
No, it's really not. The purpose of having the trial, that thing called due process, is to allow the case for the prosecution and the case for the defence to collide, and see which is left standing under the cold light of due process. Maybe the defendant can persuade the judge/jury/public that they made an honest mistake that should be forgiven. Or maybe the judge/jury/public decides that the "just following orders I didn't understand" is not enough of a defence given the gravity of the crime.
The crimes going on are extremely grave. I'm ready to start filling some fresh graves over this.
Posted Oct 8, 2013 12:08 UTC (Tue) by mpr22 (subscriber, #60784)
Treason's quite a narrow charge (and has specialized rules of evidence) in the USA. Article III, Section 3 of the United States Constitution:
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.
Unless you can get them to confess (and why would they confess to a capital crime?), it's probably easier to look elsewhere in the law for something suitably serious to charge them with.
Posted Oct 8, 2013 16:32 UTC (Tue) by hummassa (subscriber, #307)
You are proposing to hang/kill (remove the right to live) from a person because that person wants to remove your right to privacy, because you and that person believe that said rights are important for the maintaining of a ficctional entity called "king and country"?
Can you, after being mad at me, and counting to ten thousand to calm down, see how stupid this sounds? And how inneffective? Because after you hang them, you are certainly infringing the rights that people think are more important than the ones you are defending, and you are the next logical candidate to the noose?
The effective measure is to nullify the damage they incur: to dismantle every single instance of the vigilance apparatus. For that, you would have to forbid all kinds of log-keeping after a sort time, and penalize electronic communication violations.
Take away their toys, and keep them alive. Just like that.
Posted Oct 18, 2013 17:18 UTC (Fri) by filteredperception (guest, #5692)
disclaimer: I happen to be a "spiritual person". But for some reason, after 38 years living in the U.S., the "spirit" I have found, is that terroristic insanity is how one gets results. Hyperbole works. Threats of physical violence, credible or not work. I've come to this point, after debatably delusional beliefs that my particular position in society (related closely to a powerful person), and particular interests (see past LWN articles on a zealous history of pursuing the ability to reproducably and automatedly be able to rebuild RHEL/CentOS from source as a user, such that trust in 3rd party binaries (with alleged matching source available) is not required.
After I made comments on a linux mailinglist about setting myself on fire to protest GoogleFiber's server ban, the next day an anonymous coward on slashdot leaked comments from a Google all hands meeting where the CEO "repeatedly needled" the CFO about the server ban. A day after I made assassination threats against Hillary Clinton pseudo-anonymously on slashdot (and another random low-uid misogynist asshole on slashdot), I discover that Google finally partially reversed their server ban. I still believe that the 'rightness' of my arguments (voltairre quote comes to my minds background), will make me win the day. But I believe that very powerful moneyed interests have committed at least hundreds of crimes against me over the past 10 years to discredit me. I wrote a self published book about it.
A person can only be pushed so far, before the animal decides that insane violence, or at least the threat of it, is the only realistic response left to them. I believe my position in society and personality have allowed me to glimpse the dark days ahead, if the folks like Keith Alexander, and Obama (though I wouldn't kill him, just cuz he's black, even though I'm white) get the punishment they deserve and need to prevent the kind of psychotic damage I have had to endure.
Posted Oct 18, 2013 17:20 UTC (Fri) by filteredperception (guest, #5692)
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