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Ten years of Fedora

Ten years of Fedora

Posted Sep 23, 2013 16:24 UTC (Mon) by Neowin (guest, #93001)
In reply to: Ten years of Fedora by drag
Parent article: Ten years of Fedora

> It's just silly. Chrome PAPI plugin version of Flash outclasses the NAPI plugin version of Flash in most respects. It's faster, the audio works a lot better, it is sandboxed better, and it's a hell of a lot more stable.

Can I use it in Firefox, Opera?
Why should I lose my freedom to use latest Flash player in my favorite browser other than Chrome/Chromium?

What, you ask me to do some symbolic link?
See: http://tmrepository.com/trademarks/linuxteachesyoucompute...

> ... and it's also why I am using Chromium and not Chrome nowadays because it doesn't come with built-in support for Adobe Spyware. It is at least as bad, and quite possibly worse, then running around on the world wide web with a Java plugin enabled. (that and it avoids the proprietary PDF viewer also)

> If anybody actually use Linux Desktop because of the perceived improvement security and privacy, but still insists on using Flash they are doing themselves a huge disservice. Nowadays there is a significant amount of HTML5 video content out there and in many cases downloaders like 'clive' can fetch most content that isn't available under webm or html5 other format by default.

I have the freedom to install a "spyware" and view a Web with more contents. You don't.


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Ten years of Fedora

Posted Sep 23, 2013 17:04 UTC (Mon) by drag (subscriber, #31333) [Link]

> Why should I lose my freedom to use latest Flash player in my favorite browser other than Chrome/Chromium?

I think you are severely degrading the term 'freedom' when you are using it in this context. It's actually somewhat offensive.

> What, you ask me to do some symbolic link?

I have no clue what you are talking about.

> I have the freedom to install a "spyware" and view a Web with more contents. You don't.

Again with the 'freedom' thing. Now it's even a more disgusting and deplorable usage.

Ten years of Fedora

Posted Sep 23, 2013 17:55 UTC (Mon) by Neowin (guest, #93001) [Link]

> I think you are severely degrading the term 'freedom' when you are using it in this context. It's actually somewhat offensive.

Can you explain how you have greater freedom when you have less software to choose from?
You basically put yourself in a jail.

Ten years of Fedora

Posted Sep 23, 2013 19:08 UTC (Mon) by drag (subscriber, #31333) [Link]

> Can you explain how you have greater freedom when you have less software to choose from?

The amount of software choice has no bearing on the amount of freedom you have personally.

When you say 'freedom' in your other post what you really are saying is: "I want people to do a bunch of work to make what I want to do trivially easy'. This is NOT freedom. This is a overarching sense of self-entitlement.

I can fully understand your desire to use the latest version of flash in your preferred browser, but guess what: Flash is a closed source pile of shit and if you want to use it you have to play by Adobe's rules because of copyright laws. If you want real freedom then petition the government to get rid of IP laws, not bitch about the fact that you have to use Chrome to get the newest version of flash.

> You basically put yourself in a jail.

Hardly.

Ten years of Fedora

Posted Oct 3, 2013 8:14 UTC (Thu) by yeti-dn (guest, #46560) [Link]

No, you put yourself to a Flash jail.

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