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Novell acquires SUSENovell acquires SUSEPosted Nov 4, 2003 14:24 UTC (Tue) by davidl (guest, #12156)Parent article: Novell acquires SUSE Probably logical, but I hope this doesn't dent good support for KDE in Suse in view of Ximian now being around. The doom-mongers will probably be out in force now, but considering Suse distros, and even Ximian's desktops, are based on free software the core will still remain free and things still open. Hopefully. What this means for Netware is still very unclear. I assume a vacancy will now be open for a successful European-based Linux supplier.
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Novell acquires SUSE Posted Nov 4, 2003 14:29 UTC (Tue) by minichaz (guest, #630) [Link] I keep hearing about these vacancies. There is the one created by redhat moving out of the consumer desktop space and now the European one too. So... Who fancies making some money by creating a comercial distro based on Fedora but swung towards KDE instead of Gnome? Its got to be worth a thought...
RedHat KDE Posted Nov 4, 2003 14:43 UTC (Tue) by vblum (guest, #1151) [Link] Happily recommending Mandrake boxes ... it used to be their business model (when they still made money)
RedHat KDE Posted Nov 4, 2003 15:00 UTC (Tue) by davidl (guest, #12156) [Link] Well Mandrake don't have as much money and resources as the 'other two' but they do reasonably well. Their config tools are very good. Mandrake, step up to the plate! Oh damn, that's an American saying!
RedHat KDE Posted Nov 4, 2003 15:03 UTC (Tue) by minichaz (guest, #630) [Link] Yeah... Mandrake. Been there. Unstable and full of gimmicks as I recall. I also think the birth of Fedora could damage Mandrakes Cooker community as some people jump ship. We'll see though.
Mandrake Posted Nov 4, 2003 16:22 UTC (Tue) by virtex (subscriber, #3019) [Link] Funny, I've been running Mandrake for years without any stability problems. My main box at work, where I do everything from email to web browsing to running multiple OSes under VMWare to developing code to running databases and web servers is running Mandrake 9.1 and has not seen a reboot since I installed it 6 months ago. And it's running as smooth and problem free as it was when I first installed it.As for the gimmicks, would you care to elaborate? Is having a central control center app a gimmick? Maybe you're talking about things like detecting when a network cable is plugged in and automatically configuring it? I actually find these things useful. Or maybe you don't like the graphical system boot? You can disable it by selecting the "no framebuffer" at the boot prompt. What exactly is it you find gimmicky about Mandrake?
Mandrake Posted Nov 4, 2003 17:24 UTC (Tue) by minichaz (guest, #630) [Link] You know what? I'm going to hold my hand up to this one. I've not used Mandrake since... err... 6.2. I know! I've been a bad boy and tarred and feathered more recent versions without trying them. I do know others who have had problems with versions as recent as 9 but I'm willing to admit that perhaps it was them.Tonight or tomorrow I'll get the isos and give it another go. I'll let you know how I get on. Thanks for the constructive feedback though. :o) Is anyone else REALLY sad to see the Redhat distro in its current incarnation die?
RedHat KDE Posted Nov 4, 2003 17:09 UTC (Tue) by lovelace (guest, #278) [Link] Unstable and gimmicks? I've been running my main web/mail/shell server on Mandrake forfour years without any problems at all. There's a lot to be said for having security tools integrated into the distribution rather than being an afterthought.
Novell acquires SUSE Posted Nov 4, 2003 14:47 UTC (Tue) by haraldt (guest, #961) [Link] SUSE will stay where it is for a long time yet. Perhaps marketing and administration would move with some speed, but getting experienced, well-educated europeans to move, even to another continent, is easier said than done.
Novell acquires SUSE Posted Nov 4, 2003 14:53 UTC (Tue) by cdamian (subscriber, #1271) [Link] I keep hearing about these vacancies too, but somehow I believe that RedHat wouldn't give this market up if they wouldn't have a good reason to do so.Maybe there really is no market for a cheap desktop distribution, because you can always find a free alternative. And RedHat are not giving up the European or KDE market, they are just going for the slightly higher priced market, which is still cheaper than the Microsoft or Sun option. christof
Another distribution gives up the ghost? Posted Nov 4, 2003 18:14 UTC (Tue) by stuart (subscriber, #623) [Link] Well folks could just use (and improve) Debian.Debian is properly Free software and has really high quality packages and package management. Apparently its installer sucks (personally I find it easier than these graphical thingumies) but that is being addressed and now Progeny have ported Red Hat's anaconda install system to Debian (i386 anyway). So I guess my feeling is, why worry, we already have a great GNU/Linux distribution which supports the most platforms in the form of Debian so if SUSE, RedHat/Fedora and Mandrake all give up producing desktop distributions it won't matter. Donations to SPI, I am sure, would help though :-) Stu.
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