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Fedora keeps sendmail — for nowFedora keeps sendmail — for nowPosted Aug 4, 2013 0:17 UTC (Sun) by anselm (subscriber, #2796)In reply to: Fedora keeps sendmail — for now by cdamian Parent article: Fedora keeps sendmail — for now
I must have missed something. Exactly when and where did Lennart Poettering propose introducing a binary registry for Linux configuration instead of simple Unix text files?
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Fedora keeps sendmail — for now Posted Aug 7, 2013 10:23 UTC (Wed) by mikemol (subscriber, #83507) [Link]
Fedora keeps sendmail — for now Posted Aug 7, 2013 10:38 UTC (Wed) by anselm (subscriber, #2796) [Link] I know about the binary logging format of journald, thank you very much. Please show me where Lennart Poettering says that there should be a binary registry for configuration settings, which was my original question.
Fedora keeps sendmail — for now Posted Aug 7, 2013 10:52 UTC (Wed) by cdamian (subscriber, #1271) [Link]
I didn't say this in my original message either. I was predicting a future where I could see this happening.
And as with binary log files there might be a good reason for these. In some people's opinion at least.
Fedora keeps sendmail — for now Posted Aug 7, 2013 11:05 UTC (Wed) by anselm (subscriber, #2796) [Link] You did give the impression that »Lennartix« was supposed to be an operating system that could no longer be maintained with »simple Unix file tools«. One can probably quibble about whether journald's binary logs are A Good Thing (as of now it's not as if journald was mandatory in any way, shape, or form, even on systemd-based systems, or would preclude the use of a traditional syslog daemon). However, I don't think it is quite fair to suggest, even ironically, that Lennart Poettering was against text files for configuration – if anything, systemd itself is an obvious counterexample to this claim. Quite on the contrary, systemd is probably doing more for the cross-distribution standardisation, and hence future-proofing, of these text files than any other effort has done recently. As far as binary configuration goes, there are various systems that try to store Linux configuration data in an LDAP directory, which is probably the closest we get to a »binary registry« these days. Like you said, there are some advantages to this (especially in larger networks) but so far nobody seems to be advocating for making this approach standard.
Fedora keeps sendmail — for now Posted Aug 7, 2013 11:46 UTC (Wed) by mikemol (subscriber, #83507) [Link]
Ah, I missed mention of configuration settings among all the other discussion of his desire to get rid of syslog's network functionality, and thought that's what you were talking about.
Fedora keeps sendmail — for now Posted Aug 7, 2013 15:34 UTC (Wed) by mathstuf (subscriber, #69389) [Link]
Syslog will still be able to talk to the network. Its the journal that he won't implement it for.
Fedora keeps sendmail — for now Posted Aug 15, 2013 15:31 UTC (Thu) by Tester (subscriber, #40675) [Link]
We already have a binary format for configuration, it's called dconf and it's used by the GNOME desktop.
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