Fedora keeps sendmail — for now [LWN.net]

Fedora keeps sendmail — for now

Posted Aug 2, 2013 7:48 UTC (Fri) by anselm (subscriber, #2796)
In reply to: Fedora keeps sendmail — for now by dlang
Parent article: Fedora keeps sendmail — for now

I think that for an opensource/free software desktop, gcc should be installed by default.

I'm with you, but:

not every Linux system ends up as an »opensource/free software desktop« (I personally try to avoid installing gcc on my servers), and …
tell that to the distribution makers. I don't know whether Fedora installs gcc by default, but Debian and openSUSE – to name two other very popular distributions – don't.

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Fedora keeps sendmail — for now

Posted Aug 2, 2013 10:27 UTC (Fri) by dlang (✭ supporter ✭, #313) [Link]

personally, I don't like any distro's stock install for a production server. There's always something I want to add to the stock install, and several things that I remove.

I like how Debian has a "minimal" install, which is fairly close to the minimum needed to boot, talk on the network, and install additional packaged. This doesn't include gcc, but it doesn't include X or any "desktop" software either. This makes it a good starting point for a server build.

Fedora keeps sendmail — for now

Posted Aug 2, 2013 12:08 UTC (Fri) by peter-b (subscriber, #66996) [Link]

Fedora also has a "minimal" install (@core) which is exactly the same thing: just enough to boot and install packages.

Fedora keeps sendmail — for now

Posted Aug 13, 2013 3:36 UTC (Tue) by mattdm (subscriber, #18) [Link]

> Fedora also has a "minimal" install (@core) which is exactly the same thing: just enough to boot and install packages.

Well, it has more than that. For example, it had sendmail in it before we decided, with this change, to remove it from that set.