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Re: Summary of accepted Fedora 20 Changes - week 30

From:  Bill Nottingham <notting-AT-redhat.com>
To:  Development discussions related to Fedora <devel-AT-lists.fedoraproject.org>
Subject:  Re: Summary of accepted Fedora 20 Changes - week 30
Date:  Fri, 26 Jul 2013 12:23:17 -0400 (4 days, 8 hours, 13 minutes ago)
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Bastien Nocera (bnocera@redhat.com) said: 
> Given the amount of time that he spent on the mailing-list fighting for
> those features, then it looks like a waste of time, that work has been
> done.

And?  (Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're saying here.)

I mean, it's part of working in a community or company or any larger
environment where you don't control all the bits. Sometimes you can't
convince people of something. Sometimes you write a 20-patch series to add a
feature and upstream decides to go a different way. Sometimes someone
doesn't like your pie menus.

Is that time wasted? It certainly can be frustrating, and dealing with
policies and procedures can be a pain.  But it's about the priorities...  if
all a Fedora contributor cares about is something existing upstream and they
don't care what Fedora, RHEL, CentOS, or other downstream distributions do
with it, then, sure, I suppose they can just withdraw and concentrate on
upstream (or Ubuntu, or Arch, or some other distro).

But if they have a vested interest in Fedora, RHEL, CentOS and other
downstreams using some bit of technology, if they have a vested interest in
getting their code and ideas out to that userbase...  participate.  Convince. 
Collaborate.  To do otherwise, and just assume someone else will do that for
them, seems foolish to me.

Bill
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