Lindows.com Announces Mozilla-Based Nvu Web Publishing Software (MozillaZine) [LWN.net]

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Posted Oct 31, 2003 19:27 UTC (Fri) by doodaddy (guest, #10649) [Link]

If it tables you want help editing, there are several tools, including OpenOffice and Mozilla Composer.

The point of a tool like FrontPage is to design entire directories of pages and automatically get the links between them working. There will probably be a theme system so you can have the menus on the pages auto-built and the background auto-colored. Also, you keep a local copy of the site, and when it is ready, you publish it, which ftps changes to the real site.

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Posted Nov 1, 2003 22:22 UTC (Sat) by XERC (guest, #14626) [Link]

But how about Quanta?
<http://quanta.sourceforge.net/>
Isn't that good enough?

I have noticed, that
there are many Websight development tools already
out there. It seems to me, that the problem with standard
"site generators" is, that they generate sites
based on some limited number of predefined templates,
so in the end, all the sites, that are genereated by
using those generators, look all alike. I understand
that a good, positively minded, glad, activism should
never be limited or slammed, but who would like
to be so unoriginal to use a standard web tempelate??

Totally independently form the previous topic, I find
that Lin_ows is a free software ABuser, because the guy
sold mp3.com for 350*10^6$(more than I could
ever dream of owning myself) and then, while talking about
taking over some of the M__ro$o_t's profits, he even earns more
by using free software(read:"our work") and doesn't
provide a free version of it's operating system for free
download as a reward for our efforts. He could offer that by
removing all the propritary license based stuff(MP3,MPEG, etc.).
And now(a few news backwards) he wants the developers to
contribute to his Click-n-Run warehouse???
In return for what? He doesn't distribute the free software
from free speech's point of view.

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Posted Nov 3, 2003 6:03 UTC (Mon) by piman (subscriber, #8957) [Link]

The free part of Lindows is Debian. So, download Debian, and you've got Lindows. There are also at least one Debian developer who is a Lindows employee, and they fund free software developers directly (GAIM, and now Mozilla, off the top of my head). Lindows is also not "the guy", Michael Robertson is "the guy". Lindows has other employees. If we want to start criticizing companies for stupid things CEOs have said, I can think of better places to start than Lindows...

I can't speak as to the quality of Quanta, but Mozilla is the most standards-compliant browser out there now, and so it seems obvious that any web development tools should be based on that.

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Posted Nov 3, 2003 15:32 UTC (Mon) by tymiles (guest, #16469) [Link]

I don't understand why everyone puts down Lindows. I think it's one of the best things to come along for Linux since Red Hat, Mandrake and Suse.

For one the cost of the OS is so low, yet you get so much it's crazy. You pay 49.99 for the OS. With that you get the current release and the next release. Plus you get e-mail support (Almost unlimited) for a year and you get access to the JR click and run warehouse. On top of that you get BIG discounts on things like StarOffice. As a matter of fact you can get the Lindows OS 4 and Knoppix style Lindows Live CD plus full version of StarOffice for Windows, Linux and Lindows (To fit the menu system of Lindows) for $60 I mean come one you can't beat that! StarOffice is $70 from Sun alone.

And the Click and run warehouse, everyone puts it down. Oh free software for sale. Sale? C&R is only $5 a month. With that I don't have to search the darn internet for the software I want or the updates and patches. It's packaged nice and neat. They add updates etc. Also they put all the software you have ever installed under your My Lindows account so if your PC crashes or you put up a new one you just go there, select all and say Click and Run. Before you know it all your apps are installed and you are ready to go!

But the best thing is the e-mail support and they offer paid phone support. (But e-mail has really worked for me.) I noticed that they had a version of Samba in Lindows OS 4 that had a potential security hole. I e-mailed them about it and in a week they had an update out there to fix the problem I had e-mailed in about.

And last but not least. It's all Debian inside. They took out nothing. Oops, the one thing they did take out though is the 2 hour install time you can find if you don't know how to install Debian with its 5 or 6 disks. Lindows installs in 10- 13 minutes no problem! (Without Open Office on the CD. 13 to 15 minutes with Open Office on the CD. They have an empty OEM version and a full version with Open Office.)

So love them or hate them, they do have good things to offer and they package them well, something Linux needs bad!

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Posted Nov 3, 2003 19:12 UTC (Mon) by XERC (guest, #14626) [Link]

May be I'm too religious, but
I don't like, that StarOffice is proprietary, nor do I
like the fact, that the work of OpenOffice developers ends up
in some proprietary, closed, project.
Regarding to the price
tags, as one can notice, it's a common trick to put two price tags
on a product: one bigone, which is crossed over, and another smaller one,
with an expression "Now just" prefixing the price number. Oh, I almost forgot, in sead of 1$, one must put 0,99$.
And the business planning.......is done with the smaller price, or even smaller than the smaller price, in mind. So, the fact, that Sun sells it's
well wrapped pice of plastic with 70$ and someone else adds something else
to the pice of plastic and sels the bundle with 60$ doesn't impress me much.

I don't want to say anything bad about Your comments, it's just that it's a forum wiht a nice diversity of different people with different opinions. Thanks for Your answer.

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Posted Nov 8, 2003 11:55 UTC (Sat) by KaiRo (subscriber, #1987) [Link]

You're mentioning Mozilla Composer... Just a note: That's exactly what Lindows.com is building upon, actually. Daniel Glazman, a.k.a. glazou, is an ex-Netscape employee who did lots of work on Composer, stated that he still wants to improv it a lot and has further plans with it, and now he got hired by Lindows.com, shortly before they did that announcement.
It's quite clear what that means ;-)