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Shame about PineShame about PinePosted Oct 30, 2003 10:46 UTC (Thu) by alspnost (guest, #2763)Parent article: A look at Fedora Core 1 Most of the package changes seem reasonable, but it's a shame Pine has gone. I know it's easy to install it yourself from elsewhere, but Pine strikes me as quite an important package for gurus, as it's a popular non-GUI mailer. Oh well, not the end of the world, but sometimes, Red Hat's licensing paranoia does actually hamper the functionality of the product.
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Shame about Pine Posted Oct 30, 2003 13:22 UTC (Thu) by NAR (subscriber, #1313) [Link] Red Hat's licensing paranoiaAs far as I know, Debian doesn't include pine in the distro either (at least in binary form) - so it's probably not a paranoia (or not Red Hat is not the only one who got infected :-).
Shame about Pine Posted Oct 30, 2003 14:11 UTC (Thu) by leonid (guest, #4891) [Link] but Pine strikes me as quite an important package for gurusWell, AFAIR, according to statistics of Linux Kernel Mailing List, most of those gurus run Mutt. Actually, it's been a long time since I've seen a guru running Pine, but that maybe is just me. :)
Shame about Pine Posted Oct 30, 2003 14:37 UTC (Thu) by jamesm (guest, #2273) [Link] Well, some guy called Linus is still using pine :-)
Shame about Pine Posted Oct 30, 2003 16:48 UTC (Thu) by LinuxLobbyist (guest, #6541) [Link] Actually, there is a GPLed replacement for pine called cone written by the author of courier-mta. It'll probably show up in a future release of Fedora Core. It is supposedly a workalike (but is still a work-in-progress, AFAIK).
Re: Shame about Pine Posted Oct 31, 2003 3:15 UTC (Fri) by X-Nc (guest, #1661) [Link] Yeah, I must say that pine will be misses. I've tried to switch to mutt but it's just to funky. The beauty of pine is that it can do all the zillion things that any other MUA can but the interface is clean and very easy to use.
Re: Shame about Pine Posted Oct 31, 2003 7:28 UTC (Fri) by set (guest, #4788) [Link] The first time I tried mutt, I didnt care for it. Whatever thedefault settings were, I found ugly, and I was used to pine. Then pine proved to be too slow at opening mailboxes with a thousand or so messages in. I re-examined mutt, and found that it is massively configurable. Starting with a config that mimiced pines interface, I organicly started to grow and modify my own interface, eg. adding vi style navigation. Mutt powers through mailboxes with 30k+ emails no problem, has powerful regex support at all levels, and I wouldnt go back for the world. Of course, my interface is so personalized that I cant claim any knowlege of a "mutt user interface", except how to alter it to suit my needs. A friend of mine was also a long time pine user, and after sharing my .muttrc, he quickly and easily moved over... (this looks too much like a mua war troll, but I really only started it to indicate that transitioning to mutt can be easier than it may initially appear.;)
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